Re: REPLY TO BYRON

From: gumshoe detective (gumshoes_at_free.com)
Date: 07/31/04 

Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:14:25 GMT

Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in
news:aohng0lh3eaof3q1i9u2vcmpv2rfug9bm7@4ax.com:

> Glad Bagz <clear@safe.com> wrote:
>>Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in
>>news:dafmg09q9q6g2phi2cbo2g77jgv7dd1hsa@4ax.com:
>>>>> >There is just as much reason to look at race as there is for
>>>>> >insurance companies to look at the ages of auto liability or life
>>>>> >insurance applicants. Group stats tell a revealing and
>>>>> >meaningful story.
>>>>>
>>>>> So tell us the group stats based on birthday, first name, and
>>>>> height. Don't have them? Then why did you pick race as the
>>>>> grouping you wish to look at stats for?
>>>>
>>>>Because Crime, LowIQ, and OOW_Breeding correlate heavily
>>>>with race, not with birthday, first name, and height.
>>>
>>> How do you know? Have you checked? let's see the data.
>>
>>You've seen the data many, many times, idiot.
>
> I've never seen any studies on the correlation of things with
> birthday, firstname, and height, not to mention the thousands of other
> possible variables which could be used to compare people.

What basis do you have to believe there would be any correlation with
anything and birthdate?

None.

>
> In most cases the studies aren't done, and sometimes they miss
> important things simply because no one has thought to check (I
> recently started taking 1/4 tsp cinnamon a day as an experiment after
> reading about a study that had a surprising find, and my triglyceride
> level has dropped by a third and my cholesterol by a somewhat smaller
> amount, matching the surprising study result.

Whoo hoo! The fact of the matter is we know that aggression and
intelligence are hereditary. We know that race is hereditary. Thus, we
can reasonably conclude that there is a strong likelihood that certain
traits will be found in, of more prevalent in, certain racial lines.

Ever heard of sickle-cell anemia, Bob???

Yes, lots of things are undiscovered because no one has looked. But you
are trying to find things to explain away the pheonomenon of high black
crime, low black intelligence, and high black failure and you CANNOT do it.

It is clearly racial. Even an idiot can see that. Which means you are a
sub-idiot, Bob.

You know damn well that blacks are less intelligent and more criminal.
Many months ago I asked you and Alberto why what we see in the black
community fulfills our expectations given their low IQ. You refused to
answer.

Theoretically speaking, let's say there was a race that was less
intelligent and more criminal than all other races, just for the sake of
argument. What would our real-world expectations be for that race?

How is this any different than what we see with black people?

It isn't. Every single thing that we would expect to see with black
people--everything that man said about black people HUNDREDS of years ago--
we see to this very day. We have plentiful evidence of negro inferiority
for those who choose not to ignore the truth.

> No one knows why, or
> whether there are longer term effects, but at least for the nonce, my
> health may be slightly better.

Yes, we know why. It's because we are all DIFFERENT and NOT EQUAL.
Certain people don't produce certain enzymes necessary for the metabolism
of certain drugs. Consequently, taking these drugs has a toxic effect on
those people because their bodies can not get rid of the drug.

The basis for that is genetic.

All thoughts and all emotions humans have are chemical reactions in the
brain. We know that genetics determines the levels of these chemicals, in
addition to amounts of gray matter in the brain. Your denial of commonly
known facts does not change things, Bob.

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/2306.html

"Scientists believe understanding an individual's genetic makeup is the key
to creating personalized drugs with greater efficacy and safety. While
widespread application still lies far in the future, pharmacogenomics has
the potential to personalize medical therapies because it is based on
genetic testing for predisposition to disease or response to therapeutic
intervention (i.e. a medication, or radiation therapy)."

You fucking idiot.

>
>>> Why did you check the data for race and NOT checked the data for the
>>> other variables?
>>
>>There are no other variables which can explain why such things are
>>common in the black race in every country in which they live and at
>>all socio- economic levels.
>
> How would you know? Have you done all possible studies?

I know because of the fact that the phenomenon that we see with black
people knows no cultural, geographic, or socio-economic boundaries. The
basis for arguments of people of your ilk are that they are culturally
based (poverty, cultural norms, legacy of slavery, etc.).

The fact is even rich blacks are disproportionately criminal. The fact is
that black crime is high all over the world.

Thus, the connection can not be cultural, socio-economic, or anything else.
The only other common trait these geographically diverse black populations
share is genetics.

FACT: Blacks perform below all races in intelligence tests and academic
performance ALL OVER THE WORLD.

FACT: Blacks have the lowest economic standing in ALL COUNTRIES all over
the world.

FACT: Blacks have the highest criminality of all races in ALL COUNTRIES
all over the world.

FACT: Black people share common genetic traits.

>
>>You fools try to introduce other "variables" into the argument to try
>>to distract from the facts. The problems is that your excuses, which
>>is what they are and not variables, are not logically based,
>
> Logic is that there is no reason why cinnamon should cause my
> triglyceride level to drop. But it does.

Wrong. This is where you are very wrong. Cinnamon, is a chemical
compound, or combination of chemical compounds. These chemicals enter your
body, are digested, metabolized, and can have a variety of effects on your
body.

That's like saying there's no logic to the stimulative effect of caffeine
even though science has documented that there is one.

Let's not forget that your little "cinnamon" study is not scientific. You
could have unknowingly altered your dietary patterns in other ways that
contributed to your improved triglyceride numbers.

>
>>can't be quantified,
>
> How would you know?

How would I know? Why don't you add two legacies of slavery and then
divide by the square root of oppression? Tell me what answer you get.

>
>>and can never be proven one way or another because they have
>>nothing to do with why black people behave the way they do.
>
> How could you know?

Because WHITE PEOPLE and ASIAN PEOPLE do not behave in the same way when
faced with the same socio-economic conditions.

No race on earth, when confronted with similar circumstances, fails like
blacks do.

Also, because of the fact that rich people are criminals, too.

When my father grew up, those were the days before generous welfare,
poverty was real poverty. Yet, the white population was not mired in
failure like blacks are.

In the past 30 years, tens of thousands of dirt poor Hmong, Thai, and
Vietnamese have entered America and have outperformed blacks (and whites on
some measures.)

Thus, when different groups are faced with the same poor circumstances, it
is ONLY, and I mean only, the black race that consistently fails to get
ahead.

The ONLY reason blacks have attained any kind of status at all in America
is due to the lowering of standards with Affirmative Action.

Most blacks who apply to college could not get in. Not only that, but on
SATs, rich blacks score LOWER than poor whites. Even poor whites have a
leg-up in the college admissions process over their much wealthier black
counterparts!

>
>>> Because you are a subhuman racist slime, is why.
>>
>>Bob, why is black crime disproporationately high from Canada to
>>England to Africa?
>
> I don't know that it is (and I don't care),

Yes you do know.

> since "disproportionate"
> would have required eliminating all those other variables AND using an
> objective definition of "black".

Nope. Disproportionate does not require eliminating all those other
bull*** variables you make up. It requires one look at different races in
similar circumstances and then measuring their performance.

FACT: poor whites outscore rich blacks on SATs.

>
> And I'm not a subhuman racist slime like you.

Oooh, what an insult. The truth is the truth. I'll stand on the side of
the truth every time despite your attempts to win me over to your side with
insults.

>
>>Bob, why are black people disproportionately reliant on welfare all
>>over the world that offers them welfare?
>
> I don't know that it is (and I don't care), since "disproportionate"
> would have required eliminating all those other variables AND using an
> objective definition of "black".

Ah, here we go. We can easily identify blacks by their physical
characteristics.

>
> And I'm not a subhuman racist slime like you.
>
>>Why is EVERY single black nation on this earth an impoverished ***
>>hole of starvation, disease, and crime?
>
> I don't know that it is so (and I don't care), and answering "why"
> would have required eliminating all those other variables AND using an
> objective definition of "black".

Nope. You KNOW damn well that it is.

>
> And I'm not a subhuman racist slime like you.
>
>>Why haven't blacks contributed anything meaningful to the world? Why
>>is there such a lack of technical innovation coming from black
>>nations?
>
> I don't know that it is so (and I don't care), and answering "why"
> would have required eliminating all those other variables AND using an
> objective definition of "black" and an objective definition of
> "meaningful" and an objective definition of "lack of technical
> innovation".

Copying and pasting is all you can do to counter the truth?

>
> And I'm not a subhuman racist slime like you.
>
>>Low intelligence explains all these things.
>
> So does your being a subhuman racist slime explain all those things,
> because only a subhuman racist slime would ask such questions, or care
> about the answers.

Ah, here we get to the nut of Bob's reasoning. If you even have to
consider looking at differences in people of different racial backgrounds,
then you are automatically a racist, even if you ar correct in your
findings.

In Bob's world, we should ignore differences in the races. Hell, let your
teenage daughter be out on the street alone with blacks--who are 3 times
more likely to rape. Don't lock your car door when blacks are around--even
though they are many times more likely to rob and/or carjack you.

>
>>Your "variables" do not
>
> You wouldn't know.
>
>>and only obfuscate the truth
>
> "Truth" is for religion and ideology.

Hahahaha.

> My religion is between me and
> my God, and I don't pretend to know "truth". Ideology is something I
> think almost as poorly of, as I do subhuman racist slime like you.

Hahahahaha. Truth: I have a total of five fingers on my left hand.

The fact that you don't want to acknowledge the truth, Bob, doesn't mean I
don't have five fingers on my left hand.

>
>>Bob, most people think you are an idiot
>
> You wouldn't know, since you have conducted no studies.

Nobody argues your side with you. Just you, alone.

>
>>and most people see right through your lies.
>
> You wouldn't know, since you have conducted no studies (not to mention
> the fact that I don't lie).

You lie all the time.

>
>> Why don't you give it up?
>
> Why don't you stop beating your wife three times daily?
>
>>Nobody argues with the data we present.
>
> Why bother? It is data gathered by subhuman racist slime, and is
> tainted by association with you.

Uh huh. So, information that I presented previously by the African-
American Men Project is tainted because I quoted it? And not only that,
but you are calling a group of black people racist because they published a
study about black people that you don't want to acknowledge???

Is that how it works in your world?

>
>>They just resort to name-calling
>
> No. That is what subhuman racist slime does when it uses "black" not
> to mention other words, as epithets.

Epithets? Black people are called *** to remind them of their inferior,
sub-human status.

When blacks are given their freedom, that's when all hell breaks loose. If
blacks are kept shackled and oppressed, they are better off. They can
function and thrive, to a limited degree, under such oppression.

However, when you give the *** his freedom, crime explodes. Black
failure increases. Violence explodes. Black poverty actually increases!

If it wasn't for our welfare system, which pays millions of inferior
niggers to vote for Democrats, millions of blacks would have starved to
death decades ago.

What happened to the black illegitimacy rate when blacks first were treated
as equals? What has happened in South Africa after the end of apartheid?
The very same thing happened in Africa that happened in the United States:
society got worse at the hands of the inferior ***.

>
>>which is all one can do when presented with inarguable truth.
>
> The "only inarguable truth" is that you are a subhuman racist slime.
>
>>Your name is Bob "Usenet's Biggest Idiot" LeChevalier, not lojbab.
>
> Your name is "subhuman racist slime", not "King of SCAA".
>
>>Why
>>don't you get over that stupid fake language and try entering the real
>>world?
>
> Why don't you stop beating your wife three times daily?
>
> lojbab

Hahahahaha. Ignorance is bliss for you, isn't it, Bob? Hahaha.

By the way, Bob, why are you such a *** lover? Millions of the inferior
beasts would rob, beat, and probably kill you if given the chance. Yet you
insist they are not the *** that they are. I don't understand that.

Who's yer daddy, boy?!

King of SCAA

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