Re: REPLY TO BYRON
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Date: 08/04/04
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:15:51 GMT
WOAH, stop the jello in mid-flight....
"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in message
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snippity snip snip.
> In most cases the studies aren't done, and sometimes they miss
> important things simply because no one has thought to check (I
> recently started taking 1/4 tsp cinnamon a day as an experiment after
> reading about a study that had a surprising find, and my triglyceride
> level has dropped by a third and my cholesterol by a somewhat smaller
> amount, matching the surprising study result. No one knows why, or
> whether there are longer term effects, but at least for the nonce, my
> health may be slightly better.
YOU SERIOUS? Hmm. Thanks for that info. Are you seeing this post? Bob,
you asked me to email you. I did - to the email addy I see on these posts
for you. Just to let you know I did do that. Did I email the wrong place?
I'm at nakived at juno dot com. Hope spam bots don't read that.
>
> >> Why did you check the data for race and NOT checked the data for the
> >> other variables?
> >
> >There are no other variables which can explain why such things are common
> >in the black race in every country in which they live and at all socio-
> >economic levels.
Actually - whoever said that - yeah, there are ways to explain that kind of
behavior in NOT ALL blacks, but enough of them to make them stand out. It's
actually a kind of small percent of them - but they stand out moreso than
say an Irish person would stand out. How many white criminals and etc etc
are Irish? What percent of Irish are here? And etc. For one thing, they
DO stand out - noticeably. Self hate can explain all of it. Individual
people that behave that way have it, no matter who they are - they hate
self, hate life, etc. Not all self-haters act out that way, but combine
self-hate with scape-goating - and you got MY theory on it. Psychological.
Well behaved blacks agree with that - and there are a lot of well-behaved
religious blacks I run into. As for the OOW thing, well, didn't The Man PAY
them to stay home and pay them more for each kid? Yeah, that was done.
Stupid thing to do.
>
> How would you know? Have you done all possible studies?
>
> >You fools try to introduce other "variables" into the argument to try to
> >distract from the facts. The problems is that your excuses, which is
> >what they are and not variables, are not logically based,
>
> Logic is that there is no reason why cinnamon should cause my
> triglyceride level to drop. But it does.
That would be chemistry, Bob. Hmm. Sardines - the kind in a can, like
King Oscar brand - they have HIGH sat fat - but eat them every day and you
WILL get raised HDL good cholesterol. Raise the HDLs if you can't really
lower the LDLs. Also, they are finding that raised LDLs are there for a
reason in people that don't really DO anything or EAT anything that would
account for high levels. Too low LDL is bad too - something about cortisol.
The whole cholesterol thing is a can of worms that had to be reopened.
Alchohol raises HDL, lowers LDL - and they don't know why. Science journals
report it. Doctors will NOT tell patients this. SOME sat fat gets
converted to HDL - they don't know why. Statin drugs lower LDL - but they
don't prevent heart attack or stroke at all - the rates are still the same.
Stress causes cells to grow in heart as if heart was stabbed, really
injured. Very Bad. Transfats in foods (any kind of hydrogenated vegetable
oil) that claim to have NO cholesterol of sat fat - they raise LDL, LOWER
HDL!!! and raise triglycerides. Triply bad. They only JUST found that out.
So then, people have been eating poison and thinking it was low cholesterol
food. The experts don't know TOO MUCH when it comes to this.
Nim said, awhile back, to get a C REACTIVE PROTEIN test if you want to know
if you are really at risk of heart problems. I have no clue what that is -
but you can get the test. People with low cholesterol might have high risk,
and so forth. Cholesterol tends to go up in women during menopause, too -
no one knows why. Some research shows that LDL goes up when body is
injured, like soft tissue stuff. So trying to lower it with no sat fat
food - is not gonna work. And it doesn't work.
>
>
> Why don't you stop beating your wife three times daily?
Oo, that was a whole bowl of jello that went flying....LOL.
>
> --
> lojbab lojbab@lojban.org
THAT is where I emailed you.
> Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
> (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
> Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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