Re: Lapita??
From: Eric Stevens (eric.stevens_at_sum.co.nz)
Date: 08/13/04
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:22:50 +1200
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:31:27 GMT, Seppo Renfors <Renfors@not.com.au>
wrote:
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>Eric Stevens wrote:
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>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:25:15 GMT, Seppo Renfors <Renfors@not.com.au>
>> wrote:
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>> >
>> >
>> >Eric Stevens wrote:
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>> >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 05:18:46 GMT, Seppo Renfors <Renfors@not.net.au>
>> >> wrote:
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Eric Stevens wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 02:29:18 GMT, Seppo Renfors <Renfors@not.com.au>
>> >> >> wrote a lot of bullshit which he can perhaps justify if he comes back
>> >> >> with a list of tropical regions for which a westerly prevailing winds
>> >> >> is listed for much of the year.
>> >> >
>> >> >What you posted was over generalisation of issues NOT relevant to the
>> >> >issue being dealt with. Read my post where I detailed weather patterns
>> >> >in the area - you need no more. Alternately do your own research -
>> >> >hell you might even just watch the weather on the idiot box for a few
>> >> >days.
>> >>
>> >> Just a few weeks ago I was watching the weather in both Samoa and
>> >> Tonga. I have also in the past watched it in the Cook Islands. I can
>> >> assure you that first-hand experience beats anything you might try to
>> >> deduce from the Channel Nine weather forecasts.
>> >
>> >
>> >Oh really - are you so FAT that you manage to cover a whole high
>> >pressure system - I doubt it, but that IS the absurdity you are
>> >attempting to present by you 'personal experience'!!
>> >
>> >But lets face it, the idiot box has shown you up, hasn't it, that's
>> >why you dismiss it now!
>>
>> Idiot!
>
>Indeed you are, as the idiot box shows you to be one.
>
>"Large-scale atmospheric circulations affecting our climate":
>http://www.bom.gov.au/lam/climate/levelthree/analclim/imagesm/glbwndap.jpg
>
I am sure Seppo will have a counter explanation for this but the
global circulation shown on the page he has just cited is shown as
from the EAST at the tropics - which is what I have always said.
>Notice the "H" pressure systems, and remember you are looking at the
>whole globe and can't see any detail it's the "Large-scale
>atmospheric...." - each one of those "H" systems has the equatorial
>portion of them shown as a single direction due to the scale (trade
>winds) - it is a generalisation, but they are INDIVIDUAL systems that
>rotate as indicated by the arrows. That is to say that the winds are
>PREDOMINANTLY South Easterly in the Southern hemisphere. Note the term
>PREDOMINANTLY meaning "not 100%" or "not always" as they can't be due
>to the systems (which are represented in a very generalised manner
>anyway)!
>
>Of course as a generalisation it cannot show that "during the monsoon
>season in northern Australia, the easterly trade winds are replaced by
>moist north-westerly (monsoonal) winds from the Indian Ocean and
>southern Asian ocean waters." Of course the monsoon season generally
>lasts from December to March..... only a quarter of the year..... and
>THAT is during the very time the thermal equator is at its most
>southerly point - the very time "trade winds" are supposed to be at
>their most southerly as well!
>
>Here have a lesson for free:
>http://www.bom.gov.au/lam/Students_Teachers/dro/drop.shtml
>
>Note the weather maps and the isobars on them!!
Yep. Just bear in mind that Melbourne is anything but a tropical city,
so citing Melbourne's weather as a guide to the nature of the tropical
trade winds renders you slightly suspect. However, your source of
information is saved by the 'weather map' which appears on many of the
pages. It shows a large high sitting over Australia. This will give
rise to Westerly winds in the south (over Melbourne) and Easterly
winds in the tropical North.
>
>> I experienced the trade winds from the East at first hand.
>
>No you didn't, you expressed a LOCAL observation of a wind and uttered
>an absurd personal opinion at the very best. Nothing more - to
>experience "trade winds" you have to take in a far vaster area than
>you can manage "first hand" - or personal observation. Further to that
>trade winds in the Southern Hemisphere are SOUTH EASTERLY -
Go further north and they are easterly, as your own (first) URL cited
above shows.
>... so your
>observation skills aren't very good - but more likely you observed
>nothing, you just added the usual sloppy generalisation of "easterly"
>as that saves specifying the hemisphere!
Unfortunately I couldn't resist pointing out that even the evidence
you have cited shows you to be wrong. Now I'll continue to ignore you
on this subject.
Eric Stevens
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