Re: Atheists dying
From: Christopher A. Lee (calee_at_optonline.net)
Date: 08/28/04
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:22:36 GMT
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:31:35 +0200, Dmitri Vikawtsky <Eddow@gmx.net>
wrote:
>Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> No.
>>
>> It acknowledges that theists exist. And that we are not in that group.
>>
>> Please try to understand that you are telling atheists what our
>> position is, and that what you tell us, is not our position.
>>
>What is your position so, if it's not to say "God doesn't exist" ?? What
>is then your position toward God ?!?
What is "God" that it could or could not exist?
Please try to understand that it does not mean what you seem to think.
It is part of Christian mythology. I am not a Christian. The question
doesn't even arise.
The only people who could have that question are Christians - and they
daren't ask it because it is such a large part of their life.
For the rest of us it is no different than asking whether any other
fictional character exists.
Please try and understand this.
>You seem to feel like if it was 2 teams: theists and atheists. That's
>not the point, my convictions here has nothing to do with my definitions.
No. I do not. There are people. The problem is that some of these
people have a religion and believe in something they think is
important.
They think that because it is important to theselves, it must be
important to everybody else.
They do not understand that it is unimportant to everybody else, and
that it does not even mean the same thing.
Remember that while we see them as people who still believe in Santa
Claus, they see us like people who don't believe in the planet Earth.
They do not understand that it is just part of Christian mythology to
everybody else, and they imagine that it is as real to us as it is to
them.
So they invent a position we do not have: that we believe "something
important that obviously exists" does not exist. That we have to
persuade ourself this because it obviously exists. And they invent all
sorts of reasons why, which are rather insulting.
The position they have invented for us is what gets into dictionaries.
Even though it is wrong.
Also, because it is at the centre of their
extremely important to everybody, and can't accept that it isn't. So
they invent a position for people w
Your definitions are from the theist perspective, not the atheist one.
Any attempt to define atheists using theistic presumptions will always
get uit wrong.
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