Re: Kling of KKKrap
From: P.Comm (tjsrno_at_spampost.com)
Date: 09/11/04
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:05:35 GMT
"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in message
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> "P.Comm" <tjsrno@spampost.com> wrote:
> >"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in message
> >news:m4p1k0l6ogv6q54lllgvn6cvin2u9ahe9c@4ax.com...
> >> is a reference to the hypothetical geography of the ancestry and not
> >> to race.
> >>
> >> >I call them "Oriental" or "Mongoloid".
> >>
> >> But that isn't meaningful.
> >
> >SOCIALLY it is. SOCIALLY no one refers to Denish Desouza as "Asian."
>
> The claim is that the scientific article is referring to races.
> Science doesn't care much about social races. Your frequent cite of a
> human ancestral tree does not conform to social races, and does not
> clearly divide in accordance with the features generally used to
> categorize people socially.
Some of the trees in the article I wrote and cite do conform to social
ideas, some do not. But it answers the question "is there such a thing as
race." It says "yes IF" and "no IF." LMAO. I wrote it. I can't write
what I don't think myself and put my name on it. On the streets, people see
it as black, brown, red, yellow and white. So what are we? OK, in the
summer I'm brown. In the winter I'm white? LMAO. That would be how OTHERS
perceive me - for the most part, not 100% of the time. Hispanics often
claim they are brown, even if they look like Castro or Sosa. Btw, when
polls are done, they are 40 to 60 minute questions asked, they DO ask what
race you are on the end part, the statistical part! Some have 3 categories
and "other" and others have it broken down more. They CAN ask that!
What I can make out of some of that hapmap stuff is that they are studying
migrations of populatoins - the WHEN and where of these migrations. It
might be interesting to note with me too, when I lived in NJ, my hair was
typically poker straight - very thick (like Chinese have) and poker
straight. Now, in FL, well, heh, I have Bozo hair - especially when I leave
it as it is after being in salt water. Keep in mind, primitive humans
didn't wash every day, HEH. So then, poker straight hair, Bozo hair - is
definitely ENVIRONMENTAL! I can pick up my hair and it will STAY where I
put it. Blacks can do that too, Bob. I could never do that when I lived
in NJ.
>
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