Re: wave of forgeries in name of Archimedes Plutonium

From: P.Comm (tjsrno_at_spampost.com)
Date: 12/28/04

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    "Archimedes Plutonium" <a_plutonium@iw.net> wrote in message
    news:41CBB620.2D282703@iw.net...
    > Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:39:05 GMT "P.Comm" wrote:

    Note specific things left in your header here - I'm assuming this is YOUR
    header. :
    >>
    >> From: Archimedes Plutonium <a_plutonium@iw.net>
    >> Reply-To: NOiwEMAIL
    >> Organization: www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
    >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.16.17.27
    >> X-Complaints-To: abuse@iw.net
    >> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@iw.net

    Now note specific things in the forged header:

    >--- begin forgery ---
    >From: Archimedes Plutonium <a_pluton...@iw.net>
    >Organization: www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
    >NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.141.239.221
    >X-Trace: fata.cs.interbusiness.it 1102670658 15394 217.141.239.221 (10
    >X-Complaints-To: n...@interbusiness.it, a...@interbusiness.it

    The header is not forged here. Only your name is. The IP doesn't resolve
    to the same place at all, so the IP is not spoofed as if it's yours. .
    >>
    >> YOUR post header is from here:

    >> PrairieWave Telecommunications, Inc. 216-16-0-0-1 (NET-216-16-0-0-1)
    >> 216.16.0.0 - 216.16.127.255
    >> PrairieWave Dialup DHCP DIALUP-216-16-17-0 (NET-216-16-17-0-1)
    >> 216.16.17.0 - 216.16.17.63

    This is the forged header
    >>
    >> Search results for: 217.141.239.221
    >>
    >> OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
    >> OrgID: RIPE
    >> Address: P.O. Box 10096
    >> City: Amsterdam
    >> StateProv:
    >> PostalCode: 1001EB
    >> Country: NL
    >>

    Do you see?

    Yes, it would be very nice if forgers were outed for all to see. But law
    has not kept up with the technology at all - not even close. Here is one
    for you - you get a collect call from an officer - will you accept the
    charges. If you say no and hang up, they call again as if it's very urgent.
    You find it it's the law calling about someone you know who has been in an
    accident. One of the people didn't have his license with him, so he's at
    the police station. You are told that you need to call the station and
    given a number and a "code" to press so you can get directly in touch with
    Sgt. Jones or something. the number is *721 area code, number. Heh. If
    you call it, you will forward your calls and whoever is at the end of that
    number (out of state number) will be able to use YOUR PHONE. And so, I call
    the cops about this and give them the number of the person obviously IN on
    the scam. The cops knows about it and say it IS a scam. But can they go
    after the person at the end of the number I gave them? NO - that person
    didn't do any crime and can say "well, I had no idea someone forwarded their
    phones to me." I say, put a fucking gun to the head of that person and MAKE
    them talk. Who's doing this, believe it or not, are people IN JAIL, doing
    this scam and falsely representing themselves as cops - which IS a crime. I
    say, they are BOTH in on it - but the law has not yet caught up to the
    technology. If it happens to y ou and you DO call the *721 and number -
    just hit *73 and get your phones back. Or be safe - NEVER GET CALL
    FORWARDING. I don't have it. Don't want it.

    > Question: is there someway of removing those forged posts completely out
    > of the system and even Google?

    Well, yes, if you want to do it. Here is how:

    Send an email to
    groups-support@google.com

    Give them the url and/or message id from google of the forged post. Uh, on
    GOOGLE find the post, click options and view the post as original and get
    the message ID from that and the url
    (either or). It has to be the url to ONLY that post, not a whole stream of
    posts, as it shows up on google.

    Tell them to remove it BUT - you have to also do this: .

    You have to give google:
    1. Your full name and contact information, including an email address that
    can be verified.
    2. The complete Google Groups URL (or message ID) for each message you
    would like to have suppressed.
    3. A statement that says "I swear under penalty of civil or criminal laws
    that I am the person who posted each of the foregoing."

    YOU GOT THAT PART? And also this
    4. Your full name typed at the end of the message.

    In other words, you are going to have to claim YOU WROTE those posts to get
    them removed. You might not want to do that. It's up to you. I have no
    idea if google can tell if you really are the poster from your IP number or
    not. There are a stream of posts on here, some with my nick and email too,
    and I did not make them. Prior to that, I also noticed a few posts with my
    name and email and the header looked very similar to my real header - and I
    did not make those posts either. Keep in mind, I'm not using a name on
    here. I'm using a nick. The nick is not copyrighted.
    >
    > Archimedes Plutonium
    > www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
    > whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
    > of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
    >

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