Re: Racial Differences in Intelligence

From: P.Comm (tjsrno_at_spampost.com)
Date: 01/20/05 

Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:38:37 GMT

"Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolfkir@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41aHd.35056$W33.767525@news20.bellglobal.com...
> P.Comm wrote:
> [...]>
>> Did it ever occur to you that blacks in the USA deliberately *** up
>> their tests? I have MET blacks that deliberately fucked up in school,
>> got low grades, just to be "cool." I've seen it with my own eyes. It's
>> sort of like some Hispanics that pretend they don't speak English when
>> they DO - and fluently.
>
> I've noted deliberate underperformance also among First Nations and
> working class students. Two examples:
>
> -- an Ojibway girl who (in her weekly journal, written for English class)
> expressed anxiety about her ambition to succeed in school, since her
> friends put her down for "trying to be better than them" if she got good
> marks.
>
> -- a boy whose marks went from A/A+ to D/F in a fairly regular pattern -
> he was working class, and his friends put him down whenever he got a good
> mark.
>
> Then there are those who are afraid of messing up if they do the test as
> instructed, so they deliberately mess up. That way, they have controlled
> the outcome, not the test. Me, myself, have fucked up on tests, just to
> show the bastards that they couldn't figure me out. That was when I was a
> teenager, ane very confused. Which is another reason I put very little
> stock in SATs and such. -- There are many and usually very mixed motives
> for messing up on a test. Racial consciousness is just one factor.
>
> Etc.

Well, here is another example. I was hanging out with a math professor - it
was casual, we were having dinner at this GREAT (oh god GREAT) place - and
heh, had gone thru a whole pitcher of Sangria (the real thing) - so we were
pretty drunk. Throughout the night, he was passing me these really dumb
math problems that were all jokes. Then, he passes me this problem after
taking 12 coins out of his pocket. I EXPECTED a joke since the other ones
(maybe 50 in all) were jokes. Of course, he said it was not a joke (but he
said that with the others, too). That one I solved pretty fast - drunk too.
Then he gets this BIG attitude over it. See, it took HIM 3 days to solve it
and he had told me that. HA.... And so, to make things worse, I improved
on the problem later on (when sober) and presented him a new problem, told
him there is a pattern to it a way to solve all such problems and I "got
it." He couldn't solve it. He's a professor. I have HS math only. Go
figure. Why he'd get all attitudish over it and, well - that has nothing to
do with intelligence. It's emotions.

Thing is - when you go to "take a test," you know you are "taking a test"
and some folks get stressed out - others do not. Some very good test takers
are dumber than the backside of a barn when it comes to real life things or
applying what they should know, or appear to know.

It really SUCKS that kids have that kind of ethic and then proceed to fail.
That kind of thing did not exist when I was a kid in school at all. What
you are desribing is the product of diseased egos - and diseased egos imo,
have to GO.

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