Re: Annedoti, Anon (Re: A China-Sumer connection)

From: Comm (tjsrno_at_spampost.com)
Date: 03/03/05 

Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 07:45:09 GMT

"benlizross" <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
news:42262606.539E@ihug.co.nz...

>> They were also called Musarus and Oannes in Greek. Odacon is a name that
>> came up for ? a person back then. Sumerians state that "SOMEONE" came to
>> them from the sea and taught them what they knew. They didn't claim to
>> have invented it. They didn't claim their gods gave it to them. Logic
>> dictates that sea faring people taught them. WHO? Austronesians are a
>> very
>> good guess since they WERE sea faring people that would be likely to wear
>> fish costumes (totems).
>
> Really? Who could deny that the Austronesians were seafarers? But I'm
> not familiar with any of them wearing fish costumes. Still, there are a
> lot of different cultures, and maybe some of them do or did. I won't ask
> you to provide evidence of this, since I know it's against your
> principles. But if there is any, I'm sure Paul has dug it up by now.

I don't have references on hand - and even if I found some by digging thru
heaps - it would not be in etext. Sure, PKM seems to know more than I
know - he has an idea WHO they were. He mentioned fish totems - ask him.
>
>> Yeah, Greeks talked about this stuff too, some claiming to have met these
>> people. Anyone can go read what Berossus had to say. Thales also spoke
>> about this.
>
> Again it would be wondeful to know which Greeks claimed to have met the
> fish-people, but I know you're not about to name names.

Thales, for one I know for sure offhand.

You are aware,
> aren't you, that Berossus lived a couple of millennia after the
> Sumerians, and that his original work is lost? So it might be more
> accurate to say that "Anyone who is willing to do the research that Comm
> won't do can go read what Josephus said Berossus said about what
> tradition in his time said about Sumerian myths of the third millennium
> BC."

It's not hard to find - is it on the web? I don't know. Lots of stuff is
not on the web.
>
>> And so what if these ideas (and a lot of other ideas) are utilized by
>> creative sci fi writers? No one is talking sci fi here right now (except
>> YOU, as insults). Are you claiming that if Steven King or Ann Rice had
>> an
>> idea about this history that he or she could NOT post on here about it?
>
> Not at all. We have no rule against celebrities posting here. And if
> they displayed your level of erudition and documentation, we would treat
> their ideas just as seriously as we treat yours.

I admit I'm poor on references - I'm casually interested in some of this
stuff. Now if you asked me for a "fake ***" on music - I'd be able to
send you a jpeg. I probably would not be able to tell you the right name of
the song or who wrote and/or performed it - I'm that poor at that stuff and
I'm aware of it. But tell you the notes, the chords - definitely - I could
do that.

The thing is, I see something, a mention in Sci News or Sci America or on a
documentary digital cable show (where science is presented and real
scientists get on there and talk) - and I never imagine I'm gonna need to
write this down for some reference on usenet. I chat on here - I chime in
with an idea. Someone has to have references - since there are experts in
these fields. But are they on usenet?

Btw, it's dangerous to use your name on usenet - don't you know that?
>
> Ross Clark