REPOST: Re: Sociology of Fascism?

From: Comm (tjsrno_at_spampost.com)
Date: 03/16/05 

Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:09:15 GMT

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"Steve Hayes" <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:34:56 GMT, "Comm" <tjsrno@spampost.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"frank" <odlh90@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Hi, I'm writing an essay on Durkheim and will be discussing his views
>>> on socialism and the sense in which he views socialism as a social
>>> pathology.
>>
>>Socialism is? Socialism is basically a system of cooperation where people
>>share common goods. There is nothing so pathological about it.
>>Capitalism
>>is a hell of lot more patholocial - even psychopathic, if you realy look
>>at
>>it.
>>>
>>> I'm assuming he would consider fascism in the same manner. However I
>>> would like to reference a text in which an author or even Durkheim
>>> himself states as much.
>>
>>Fascism is not socialism. Fascism is rule by the state in cooperation
>>with
>>the military and big business (like what USA is heading toward - or is USA
>>already there?)
>
> It seems that a great many people, especially Americans, confuse socialism
> with National Socialism. They have apparently not yet learned that the use
> of
> words in the names of political parties can be misleading.
>
>>> Does anyone know of any such texts dealing with the sociology of
>>> fascism?
>>
>>E. Fromm. W. Reich too. Fromm's the best one. Reich gets weird. But -
>>he's
>>against fascism (so am I - IF it's against me - big qualifier). Fasicism
>>seems to work in the sense of that "united we stand, divided we fall"
>>psychology. It's from the Roman "fasces." It is a REaction to something
>>very real - and it seems to be a very normal human reaction (contrary to
>>the
>>psychobabble). There is nothing pathological about it - people in groups,
>>or nations, tend to go for fascism after they have been deafed and are in
>>a
>>miserable state of affairs,or when they see their nations falling into
>>chaos
>>and disorder and want to straighten things out and get back some qualify
>>of
>>life. After they do, they tend to better themselves. Where it goes from
>>there is anyone's guess. Fascist states haven't lasted long enough to
>>really see that.
>
> Cross-posted to soc.culture.south-africa where a similar topic has been
> discussed, with even more ignorance displayed.
>
>
> --
> Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
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