Re: Disappearing messages.
From: Joe Orthodox (JoeOrthodox_at_spamtrap.com)
Date: 03/17/05
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:45:45 -0600
Robert Burns wrote:
> So OK how come I have to delete them to get rid of them. OE seems not to
> want to clear them when read even though they are set to be deleted when
> read. Any ideas?
>
> Rob
Don't know. My Netscape reader won't delete them either even though I
flag them to be removed. I generally have to set the expiration date
and then manually clear all expired messages at once when I start
getting errors like:
"Error!
newsgroup server responded:No Such Article In Group
Perhaps the article has expired
<cvhvf401qrr@enews4.newsguy.com> (234249)
Click here to remove all expired articles"
Of course, the error is misleading since they are not expired on the
server, as I can still see them in Google Groups.
> "Joe Orthodox" <JoeOrthodox@spamtrap.com> wrote in message
> news:zK2_d.4856$hu3.3577@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>>I've not followed through all the replies, Steve, but the problem may be
>>your newsreader and the way it archives your messages. Mine will
>>occasionally not load a message or not download a couple each day. But
>>I can go over to Google and see there were a few messages that didn't
>>come down. Go figure.
>>
>>
>>Steve Hayes wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:14:55 -0900, floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In my other message (which seems to keep disappearing from the server)
>
> I
>
>>>>They "disappear" as soon as you read them, or in any way mark
>>>>them as having been seen. Which means that you'll see them
>>>>exactly one time, and unless you do something special they will
>>>>not be shown to you again.
>>>>
>>>>Or, that is what a decent news reader will do for you.
>>>>
>>>>Also, regardless of whether you read them, mark them, or
>>>>whatever, each server only keeps each article for a certain
>>>>amount of time. That is a configuration option for each
>>>>newsgroup on a server. Indeed, sometimes it isn't the time that
>>>>counts, but how much disk space is available.
>>>>
>>>>Hence at some point, usually a minimum of 2-3 days, but possibly
>>>>less and perhaps as much as 3-4 weeks, each article is
>>>>"expired", and at that point the server removes it entirely.
>>>>Only massive archives, such a google maintains, keep articles
>>>>for any length of time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Aye, but in this case the messages were disappearing within a minute or
>
> less.
>
>>>I do three things:
>>>
>>>1. Upload replies.
>>>2. Download bodies of marked bodies
>>>3. Download new headers and bodies of "watched" threads.
>>>
>>>When some of my messages started diesappearing (someone on another ng
>>>complained about it), I "watched" those threads, and between posting a
>
> reply
>
>>>and downloading it (1-2 minutes, got the message "Sorry. This mesage is
>
> no
>
>>>longer available".
>>>
>>>Now maybe the news server's disks were getting full, but Don Aitken, who
>
> reads
>
>>>this group and uses another server, also noticed this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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