Re: If Evolution is Wrong What is Right?
- From: "Jim McGinn" <jimmcginn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:02:47 GMT
"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@xxxxxxxx> wrote
> > Richard,
> >
> > Let's say that I accept your premise that the evidence indicates that
> > evolutionists have been mistaken all along and that there now exist
> > rational, scientific reasons to reject evolution as the ultimate cause
> > of biological organisms. The next question is what are our alternatives
> > and do these alternatives survive the same scrutiny? Do you have an
> > alternative? What is your alternative? Have you scrutinized it with
the
> > same rational and scientific rigour that you scrutinized evolution?
> > Please
> > show us.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> Intelligent design.
Aren't you going to show us the evidence?
> Scrutinized and holds up scientifically.
You expect us to take your word for it? I think you need to read up on who
you're dealing with here. I don't take anybody's word on anything. You
have to make your case. (BTW, science specifically excludes faith as a
basis for a conclusion.)
> The false premise that you present is that,*same rational and scientific
> *rigour* that you scrutinized evolution.*
So, let me get this straight. You are, it seems, admitting that you did not
employ rationality and logic to scrutinize and reject evolution. Is this
what you are admitting? If it is, I agree.
> Evolution is a failure and the more science uncovers the more everything
> points to an intelligent designer.
You remind me of Pete, Travsky, MacFarland, and Wagler. You keep restating
your position and seem to think this is a good substitute for a rational
argument. Rest assured, Mr. Dawkins, I am aware that you think evolution is
a failure and that the explanation you prefer involves an intelligent
designer. There is no need for you to restate your position. Now is the
time for you to begin supporting your argument. Get it?
> My only wish is that science would move forward at a faster pace to bury
> this horrible and untestable theory without a shred of evidence to back it
> up.
Do you have even a shred of evidence to back up your intelligent designer
supposition? If so you need to stop whining and present it.
> I'll give evolution 10 years more at the most.
Well, if it's going to take you ten years to support your argument I hope
you can understand that I'm going to keep believing in evolution at least
until then? Okay?
> The insurgents within the indoctrinated walls are going to be the major
> cause for the 10 years waiting period.
Well, I may be missing your point completely, but my best advice involves
Pepto-Bismal and an enema.
> Time to start picking another theory.
Maybe it's time for you to pick another newsgroup.
Jim
.
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