Re: Frankfurt School (Re: What does an evolutionist actually believe?)
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- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:44:28 GMT
"Aardvark J. Bandersnatch, MP, BLT, DOA" <someonelse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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> "Sylvia Knörr" <Sylvia.Knoerr_NoSpam_@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> > The Japanese are a "face" culture, for Japanese people it is very
>> important
>>> > to "save face", and the public display of aggression is one way to
>>> > LOSE
>>> > face. So maybe it is not only the group bondages which lead to the
>>> > high
>>> > degree of discipline in the Japanese society (as well as several other
>>> > Asian societies).
>>> > Japanese have tight rules of etiquette and arrangements just to avoid
>>> > embarrassing situations. Of course, that's just ONE aspect of the full
>>> > package of reasons why Eastern and Western societies are quite
>> different.
The Japanese are also a homogenous culture and society - they are NOT so
nice to Koreans - and American citizens that were of Japanese and Black
parentage had quite a bit to say about what they experienced in Japan. They
were disliked - and openly so.
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>>> Let me think about this for a day or two, please.
>>
>> As long as you please. You practice Asian contemplation? ;-)
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> Sylvia, the question is, "Why are the Japanese (and most other Asian
> cultures) 'face' cultures?" rather than being more similar to other
> cultures of the world."
I think many cultures, homogenous ones, have rules of etiquitte in their
culture, norms of behavior, appropriateness of action that involve "not
shaming yourself" and "not dishonoring yourself" (which is what lose face
means). When you lose face, you shed bad light on all people related to
you, your family. This is also very much the case in European societies.
If you ever saw some show here, one of those talk shows where the
interviewer had Dr. Mengele's son on, you'd know how this works. What was
he supposed to do, rebuke his father for some crime the father did during
wartime - when the son was a baby? Turns out in the end, it was discovered
that the son and the family were indeed helping him and they did know where
he was. Family loyalty.
People tend to FEEL more kinship with their kin - and those that are most
like themselves. That's just the way it is and no amount of "teaching" is
going to change that.
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> I"m still thinking about this one. Pardon me for having a bit slower wit
> than usual.
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