Re: Norse, Vatican and Vinland

From: Yuri Kuchinsky (yuku_at_trends.ca)
Date: 06/14/04


Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:14:36 -0400


"R.Schenck" wrote:
>
> Yuri Kuchinsky <yuku@trends.ca> wrote in message news:<40C8AC88.1C3C0E6E@trends.ca>...
> > George Hein wrote:
> >
> > [Alan:]
> > > > Presumably it's the same work to which you just referred us in a microform
> > > > version. If so, it has been ignored by serious scholars for a century. Don't
> > > > you think there might be a reason?
> > > >
> > > The reason may be truly scientific (but then such should be at least
> > > (foot)noted. However, it might be LAZINESS, STUPIDITY, POLITICAL
> > > CORRECTNESS, PERSONAL ADJENDA usw.
> > >
> > > The same human weakness applies to theologians, philosophers, historians
> > > and indeed scientists as well (and especially, today, TV media "news
> > > persons").
> > > Anyone who studies history would know this.
> >
> > Yes, George, that's for sure.
> >
> > As always, there's a whole chorus of those seeking to
> > dismiss uncomfortable evidence simply because it doesn't
> > agree with their preconceptions...
>
> what about more norse influence in pre-columbian america is anyone
> supposed to be uncomfortable about?

I have no idea.

Why is the American archaeological establishment so
uncomfortable about the Kensington Rune Stone? There's
certainly an appearance of that.

> Certainly no one disagrees that the norse did infact make their way
> into vinland?
> >
> > A reason can always be found to dismiss uncomfortable
> > evidence, that's for sure. Here, imagination and creativity
> > will reign supreme! :)
> >
> > If it's not written up in the Standard Reference Books then
> > it doesn't exist. That's the True Science at work!
>
> I think that the problem anyone here has with most of what inger says
> is that she doesn't provide much in the way of references.
>
> Undoubtedly there can be misunderstandings in these sorts of issues,
> but the 'oed' fiasco (where the entire multivolume gi-normous OED was
> obvuiously confused for some single volume compilation and yet she
> refused to give any sort of verifiable information) should lead anyone
> to be wary when inger talks about sources.I myself have been -offered-
> a number of sources from inger, but i haven't (and i am -not- saying
> its been enough time for me to justifiably say that that won't) shown
> up yet. And often when inger does present sources they are in some
> language that most people in this english language group don't speak.
>
> So forget about 'standard' references. Inger simply doesn't provide
> references. Think about it, has anyone here been presented with good
> references and sensible evidence and -still- insisted than inger was
> beign unreasonable?

I think all this Inger-hate crusade has been a bit overdone.

Inger should just publish her book, and put all her evidence
on the table. Instead, she's wasting a lot of time
squabbling with the folks who will never be persuaded no
matter what. What a waste of time.

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- http://www.trends.ca/~yuku -=O=-
Toronto

For every credibility gap, there is a gullibility fill.



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