Re: Olaus Magnus map and Hvitsark/Hvitserk

From: Doug Weller (dweller_at_ramtops.thisremove.co.uk)
Date: 06/20/04


Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:49:01 +0100

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:24:37 +0100, David B. wrote:

> Inger E Johansson wrote in message ...
>>
>>Every single page has to be read and compared,
>>every single clue has to be noted and checked.
>>You haven't done so.
>>Thus you proven yourself that you need to take more time.
>
> Incredibly, it may be true in this case. The whole Columbus / Pothorst /
> Pining saga is a pyramid standing on its tip. Almost nothing you read on
> the Internet about this is a primary source, with the result that Scolvus,
> for example, has been claimed by the Danes, the Norwegians, the Poles, the
> Portugese, the Catalans- all under different names that sound a little bit
> like "Scolvus" or "Scolnus". Nearly all the prime (as opposed to primary)
> sources date from the 16th century, and treat the various personalities
> separately- Pothorst & Pining in Olaus Magnus' "Historia de Gentibus
> Septentrionallibus" and a French map based on his "Carta Marina"; Scolvus
> in a note on the Gemma Frisius /Mercator globe of the 1530s; Corte Real in
> Gaspar Fructuoso's "Saudades da Terra".The Scolvus note specifically
> mentions 1476, but the apparent joint voyage of Pothorst, Pining and Corte
> Real at the direction of the King of Portugal is dated principally by the
> granting of a mid-Atlantic base on Terceira to the latter in 1474, on the
> assumption that this was after the route to the region of codfish via
> Iceland had been proved. Sofus Larsen's “The Discovery of North America
> Twenty years Before Columbus” (1925) set out the basic theory, based on the
> above and other evidence, but Scolvus in particular has proved to be a
> fruitful source for kookish speculation.
>

Yes, I am aware of the above, but I was challenging her statement that she
had provided contemporary sources for her claim in the urls she provided,
and no matter how you read and compare every single page and check every
single clue, those urls she provided did not do that.

Didn't someone claim Scolvus was actually Columbus?

Doug