Re: Heyerdahl (Re: Rat genes solve mystery of great Pacific odyssey

From: Yuri Kuchinsky (yuku_at_trends.ca)
Date: 06/30/04 

Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:46:47 -0400

Carmen wrote:
>
> "Yuri Kuchinsky" <yuku@trends.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E05D66.BF4BD890@trends.ca...
> > benlizross wrote in article <40DCA3B5.35A4@ihug.co.nz>:
> > >
> > > Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > benlizross wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not That Kerry wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:04:03 -0400, Yuri Kuchinsky
> <yuku@trends.ca>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >benlizross wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > benlizross wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > The mainland that the
> > > > > > > >> > > Polynesians came from was Asia -- or at the very least,
> their sailing
> > > > > > > >> > > technology came from there.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > How so?
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > In actual fact, the evidence points elsewhere.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Really? Perhaps you could give some evidence in support of
> this amazing
> > > > > > > >> claim.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >There's a marked similarity between the Canadian West Coast
> > > > > > > >canoes and Polynesian canoes, for example.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Yuri.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well maybe the Canadian West coasters came from Asia too...why
> fancy
> > > > > > > that...They did!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, kerry (Not That Kerry), you do seem to have a point
> > > > > > here... :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is indeed quite possible, and even probable, that the
> > > > > > Canadian West coasters came from Asia at some point in time
> > > > > > -- skipping along all that near-continuos coast-line --
> > > > > > before they went on to Polynesia, and became Polynesians!
> > > > > > This seems like the most rational scenario, that's also
> > > > > > supported by plenty of archaeological evidence.
> > > > >
> > > > > Archaeological evidence! Great! Tell us all about it!
> > > > > Uh...you don't by any chance mean pictures of totem poles, do you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ross Clark
> > > >
> > > > For example, the same types of stone sledge-hammers, the
> > > > elbow adze, composite fish-hook, patu-type club, stone
> > > > pounders and pestles, etc.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I was going to ask you for a reference, but then I noticed that this is
> > > just a selection from the list in Heyerdahl 1952, pp. 92ff. Ho hum.
> > >
> > > Ross Clark
> >
> > I see... So it seems like, according to Dr. Clark's system
> > of values,
> >
> > 1. Anything that Heyerdahl has ever said is automatically
> > wrong.
> >
> > 2. Any subject upon which Heyerdahl had ever touched is
> > automatically tainted, and is no longer worth talking about.
> >
> > No doubt these assumptions do simplify Dr. Clark's Universe
> > considerably...
> >
> > Yuri.
> >
> > Yuri Kuchinsky in Toronto -=O=- http://www.trends.ca/~yuku
> >
> > It is a far, far better thing to have a firm anchor in
> > nonsense than to put out on the troubled seas of
> > thought -=O=- John K. Galbraith
>
> So you really really think that they are linked ?

That's right, Carmen.

> If so what are the implications and are there any real implications ?
> In other words so what ?

Well, there are great many reasons why we might want to
study history. For example, it's important, it's
educational, and also it can be great fun!

Why Study History?
     http://history.hanover.edu/why.html

So, Carmen, would you now perhaps suggest some reasons why
we should not study history?

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- http://www.trends.ca/~yuku

"Genuine ignorance is ... profitable because it is likely
to be accompanied by humility, curiosity, and open
mindedness; whereas ability to repeat catch-phrases,
cant terms, familiar propositions, gives the conceit of
learning, and coats the mind with varnish water-proof
to new ideas" -- John Dewey