Re: Giovanni Contarini- Francesco Rosselli, 1506 worldmap

From: Seppo Renfors (Renfors_at_not.com.au)
Date: 07/05/04 

Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 07:39:48 GMT

David B wrote:
>
> Seppo Renfors wrote in message <40E7FB2A.37C80640@not.com.au>...
> >
> >David B wrote:
> >>
> >> is it your judgement that the
> >> area at the right side of the Ruysch map was mapped using Asian
> >> topographical information and names, while the area at the left side of
> the
> >> Ruysch map was mapped using trans-Atlantic topographical information
> >> but with some Asian names?
> >
> >Yep you got it. Oh, and note the names "Cuba" and "Hispanola" on the
> >islands at about the 90 deg. W line. A dead give away that the
> >continent is actually the Americas - not China. The North coast of NA,
> >across to what would be Alaska is therefor of interest and one has to
> >ask who did the information come from?
>
> OK, this is where the paper cone comes in.

No it doesn't it has no place at all in this.

> What I and others are trying to
> convince you of is that the topography on the left of the Ruysch map is not
> all mapped from trans-Atlantic exploration,

THAT much I already know - it doesn't fit the establishment dogma!
THAT is also why such extreme measures are used to discredit what is
really plain to see without these contortions.

> because the cutting point for
> the cone was chosen mathematically (180 degrees, half-way round the world
> from the prime meridian).

So what? The 360 degrees is "mathematical" only in that it has common
features with time on this planet. There is no other "mathematical"
about it and it is a chosen measurement for that reason alone - BUT
one mathematical fact about this selection is the 60 nautical miles
per degree Longitude at the equator. The map fails that requirement.
Note the accompanying text for the map "Sketch maps of the equatorial
belt of the world". Note the authors "Bartolommeo Columbus and
Alessandro Zorzi". The text also says: "Alessandro Zorzi, a Venetian
who gathered accounts of explorers and travelers,..."

http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/Ren/Ren1/308mono.html

> As a result, what happens is a gradual shading of
> trans-Atlantic information (Cuba etc.) into Asian information (Ivdei
> Inclvsi etc.).

That doesn't alter anything I have said - it still shows the continent
of the Americas. This cannot be disputed.

Would you expect LESS than 360 degrees from a map maker? Would the map
be any less accurate if you take the imaginary longitude lines away?
Is it not possible to draw in 360 degrees on ANY map at all, even a
part map? Further more it is merely 180 degrees from an arbitrary
point. The relevance it has is so SHOW the error the map maker has
made.

As you would EXPECT exactly what you see, - why are you then totally
dismissing the PRIME information a map is for - in favour of man made
secondary information that has no fixed points and is unverifiable?

Do you remember saying: "The purpose of a map is to provide a
scaled-down representation of topography." 

-- 
SIR - Philosopher unauthorised 
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