Re: German population in Europe after fall of Roman Empire.

From: Kohlfurz (kohlfurz_at_linuxmail.org)
Date: 07/06/04 

Date: 6 Jul 2004 08:58:19 -0700

icycalmca@yahoo.com (Daryl Krupa) wrote in message news:<c70365ef.0407021458.6b9b1138@posting.google.com>...
> kohlfurz@linuxmail.org (Kohlfurz) wrote in message news:<60f13560.0407020727.76ca9b50@posting.google.com>...
> > nygdan_morteauxspam@yahoo.com (R.Schenck) wrote in message news:<8fcb1069.0406301138.2bf249ee@posting.google.com>...
> > > kohlfurz@linuxmail.org (Kohlfurz) wrote in message news:<60f13560.0406160937.aa014ec@posting.google.com>...
> > > > Philip Deitiker <Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<YIOzc.20411$Di3.6146@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> snip
> > > > I exp[lained that the entire IE group originated in the Black Sea.
> > > > Respected scientists in many fields, including genetics, agree.
> > >
> > > Have you any references or even better, links to papers that support
> > > this? Particularly the genetics claim? I have missed where you
> > > posted this, if you did.
> >
> > I read a large amount almost ten years ago. There is too much
> > evidence. The main person was a Lithuanian woman whose name I cannot
> > remember. She did extensive scientific research on this with a large
> > amount of proof. No doubt here.
>
> Would that be Marija Gimbutas?

The same person, yes. She received her Ph.D from Tubingen. Her
theories are well respected for their accuracy and detail.
One theory deals with the origin of Indo-European which she settled as
being from the north shore of the Black sea. from around 4000 BC, they
began to migrate both west and east as far as China and even Japan
(Ainu people). In China and Japan, archaeology evidence confirms this.
The northern group became Germanic and the southern group became
Latin.
Her work can easily be confirmed by genetics.

> Bio here:
>
> http://online.pacifica.edu/cgl/Gimbutasbio
>
> No mention of genetic research.
>
> Daryl Krupa
>
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > This I-E expansion is someones washed up fantasy.
> > > >
> > > > No it is not fantasy. Proto IE shows an original homeland of about 50
> > > > 000 km square.
> > >
> > > PIE in particular or just languages at whatever time you are setting
> > > its origins at tend to have a 'homeland' of that range?
> >
> > PIE in particular.
> >
> > >
> > > >The expansion is very well documented by
> > > > archaeologists.
> > >
> > > How is it 'very well' documented? You're talking changes in pottery
> > > types here.
> > > I've only been reading Mallory's "In Search Of [...]" recently, so
> > > obviously there's a lot I haven't seen on this.
> >
> >
> > This is pre-pottery. Mainly by burial remains.

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