New "I" Catagory List, Name Confusion

From: Philip Deitiker (Donevenask_at_worlnet.att.net)
Date: 07/18/04 

Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:22:01 GMT

"zayton" <zayton@bellsouth.net> says in
news:g1eKc.2158$kb1.1323@bignews6.bellsouth.net:

> Inger, I saw more than one post in which you stated that
> Nicholas and Gerardus were members of the same family and
> did not see the one in which you corrected that, so it is
> quite possible for the same to have happened with Doug.

Inger is a woman of a million ploys.
  I beg to differ with you guys on the best strategy for dealing
with her and seppo. In the case of excuses for example, it is
clear that excusing the providance of references is a repetitive
propaganda ploy and as yet we have close to 50 instances
provided since January.

{Inger] " Last week I had a chance to look close at a copy of
one of Mercator's maps from 1560's. What I would like to know is
if someone have an answer to the question why a 'Denmark farm'
is noted in one of the fjords of Greenlands?"

[Tom] "Inger, do you have a specific map and location in mind
that I can look at?"

49. [Inger]" Do you have a chance to fly to Gothenburg and enter
DFDS cruiser? It's in one of them as so many other good copys of
older maps are onboard Scandinavian ships and or in harbors
here."

[Yes, Indeed, I will be in Sweden tomorrow to view that map as
well as . . . . . . and some green indians with purple
polkadots]

Note the key element in the propaganda motif, Inger provides
reference to a map not on public display, not available to most
of the people on the UseNet, certainly, and on the DFDS cruiser
which might have extremely restricted access. There she has
provided reference to a map which it is hard for anyone to
crosscheck her, the ploy. Past excuses, the map is in a museum
and thus copyrighted (over 1000 year old document), The map is
too large to send (alleviated by sci.aux) and there is no place
to send it to (alleviated by sci.aux). Now that she cannot use
these excuses she has resorted to relying on maps that are on
Swedish DoD ships. Should someone gain access to this map she
might proclaim she say the map in a dream, or on mt.Everest or
that it was placed in a time capsule and buried under the
elementary school, or that it was destroyed by a fire, etc. The
technique is subtle, but unless one has seen it in repetition
that mechanics of her deceptive propaganda is not evident.
Can you think of 20 or thirty ways by which you observed
something that is 1000 years old, yesterday, but that as of
today it is not observable by anyone.
  1. it was on my computer and my harddrive crashed.
  2. it was in the library but the library is close for a month.
  3. it was something my ancestor showed me, and we buried it
with him yesterday.
  4. its classified.
  
The new repetitive catagory. Name Confusion.

  In addition, Name Confusion is another ploy which she uses,
therefore it should be considered a repetitive modality of
propaganda in this regard. She has confused the name of
greenland with provincial greunland, she has confused other
names. If anyone has a list of proper names (people places or
things) we can get another list going (Daryl is usually good at
this). The only way to get her to stop, or to get people to
respond to her directly is to a list (as well as intertaine
ourselves)

Name Confusion #1, Greenland and Greunland
Name Confusion #2, Mercator (Nicholas and Gerardus)
Name Confusion #3, Haakon IV with Haakon VI (this is based on a
document by OM in which Haakon is mention but geneology was not
given)
putative Name Confusion #4, Olav Tryggvason and Olof Skotkonung

Notice that Inger's diversionary thought process can thrive in
these name confusions because she can merge the feats of
duplicitious personalities into one person, or move a person
about in history such their activities match a certain claim of
hers (for example, the movement of Haakon IV, the last great
westward powerful king of Norway to the mid to late 14th
century, when in fact he was killed at the battle of Orkney in
the late 13th century immediately preceding the decline of the
greenland colony, which Inger contests). Any one of the name
confusions might be justified some scholar or historian may have
errored. But the pattern of repetition of this ploy makes it
obvious that these are not confusions within the history, but
ploys by a person trying to contort history for her purposes.
One has to think about it like this the web of history is made
through connections, peoples, ancestry, titles, events,
artefacts (including documents). If one can ignore a facet of
the connection that makes this web one can attempt to build a
new web and connect freestanding artefacts, ambiguous documents,
etc into a new history that, depending on how unscrupulous one
is about the history, can be used to support any new theory.
  Let us say, for example, 1000 years from now someone decided
to ignore the Jr in JFK jrs name, and then begame proclaiming
that the senior didn't die in dallas, but was resuscitated in
washington and lived another ~40 years and died flying a plane
to Marthas Vinyard. This would seem hideous to US because we
observed the minutia of the individuals life, however in 1000
years maybe only major details remain scattered over a number of
historical sites, possibly altered by politicians, etc. OR for
instance we could ignore the first name of Clinton, and proclaim
that after Bill Clinton served 8 years in the White House
Clinton went on to serve 6 years in the Senate.
 
  Notice, also, that Doug has been slamhammered by our local
cesspool of thought, however as time has proven itself over
again, Inger once clarified will probably make the exact same
name confusion in the future, if she suspects a new audiance is
outthere. Nor is it important that this specific error be
resolved, because as many things out there than can potentially
confused Inger will in fact confuse them as needed to further
her propaganda, and by chance if you 'get on her case about
them' she will claim she is dislexic and that you are abusing
her. The fact of the matter is that if she is soooooo dislexic
she cannot keep names and places correct, she probably should
not be attempting to do history. Secondarily if it is not
dislexia, then it represents a most unscholarly form of
activity.

  The documentation of the propoganda ploys is interesting and
some savvy anthropology student might want to actually do a
thesis of the ploys of these 'Science' Charletons. At least they
might be able to get a C-essay out on these matters.

BTW, My point to Tom, Doug and others, with regard to these
responses of ad-hominim nature is that one should attempt to
provide some useful content that educates members of these
groups to abstract patterns of abuse, that others might see the
patterns and immediately quarantine the ploy such that it does
not progress into a firefight over 'nothing' and that it does
remind the abuser up front that the ploy will not 'go anywhere'
because it has been identified upfront. This does not mean
however the replies cannot also be intertaining, also. 

-- 
Philip
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