Re: Inuit were building boats in Greenland 4000 years ago.

From: Seppo Renfors (Renfors_at_not.com.au)
Date: 07/24/04 

Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 08:06:36 GMT

"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
>
> Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:
> >I confess.
> >
> >I was wrong.
> >
> >Floyd L. Davidson and now Martyn Harrison are quite right..
> >
> >The Inuit had moved into Greenland more than 4000 years ago.
> >One of the things they were doing was building boats.
> >
> >I hope the gentle reader doesn't believe any of the above. :-)

Not likely!!

> >Eric Stevens
>
> I don't know why a gentle reader shouldn't believe the above.
> I'd guess that if Eric Stevens posts a URL and cites the source
> as accurate, we can then trust that indeed it *is* accurate. He
> cited http://www.sila.dk, which uses the term "Paleo-Inuit" at
>
> http://www.sila.dk/Projects/Inuit_XI.html
>
> "... the human beings who lived in the Nuuk fjord area in
> Greenland approx. 2000 - 4000 years ago."

Nice error margin - one that does NOT support the claim of "4000 years
ago..." that was claimed as a "fact". Note it does NOT claim any
particular people - only "humans" which Floyd falsely IMPLIES are
Inuit with the surrounding text.

> Of course, if that doesn't convince anyone, then perhaps the
> academics at
>
> http://library.mcmaster.ca/maps/fc2002.htm
>
> can be trusted, eh? They say
>
> "Beginning around 2500 B.C. the Inuit crossed over the
> islands of the Canadian Arctic and migrated to Greenland."

"Lloyd Reeds Map Collection - Flying Camera Satellite Images 2002"
??????

A mob of pictures (not even shown) is a "scientific study" on the
earliest settlement - and then they even stuff up on the people
designations!! but then he posts a URL: that contradicts it below.
What a JOKE he is!

> Of course Eric might be right? In which case he most certainly
> should tell the people of Greenland, the Inuit, that they don't
> know who they and their ancestors really are. Specifically the
> people at Tikilluarit, the Greenland National Museum & Archives,
> who mistakenly (according to Eric Stevens) believe there were
> Inuit cultures called Saqqaq, Independence I, Independence II,
> Early Dorset, Late Dorset And Thule.
>
> http://www.natmus.gl/en/museet/samlinger/arkaeologi/body_seskimoer.html
>
> "All Inuit cultures are represented:

Ahhhh.... "the claiming of history"! The above line is a cultural
claims issue not science. The following shows the general casual
statement to be incorrect, it shows people designations. It
acknowledges the different people who have been there.

> Saqqaq
> Independence I
> Independence II
> Early Dorset
> Late Dorset
> Thule"
>
> Doesn't it seem fairly clear that Eric Stevens is right and the whole
> world is wrong?

What we see is pseudo history of the alternative variety from Floyd!
Something that certainly has no place in "rec.crafts.metalworking" and
really not in the remainder of the groups either!!

> Or maybe Eric should apologize and cease posting his cute little
> versions of Seppo The Word Weasel games to Usenet.

Of course, Floyd, the poor *** cannot comprehend the language
fully that IS his problem. The alternative is that he is being
deliberately dishonest - which is more likely. Of course the
circumpolar people can all be put under a single banner of Mongoloids.
In the same manner Floyd dishonestly attempts to segregate a SECTION
of that population at the Northern extremity of the Americas and call
them "Inuits" totally uncaring of facts.

DNA studies suggests Dorset are NOT the same people as the Thule
people. The Thule arrived in the area at about 1000 AD, or roughly the
same time as the Norse or a bit after. To point to Floyd's URL or a
part he didn't want people to look at, we see the timelines better:

http://www.sila.dk/history/

You will notice the page says at the top: "The cultural history of
Greenland" - the now autonomous political entity of Greenland, that
is. A "national" view of its history and therefor it is packaged as
ONE and so it is - in that context - but it is NOT so in a truly
scientific view that does NOT recognise national borders (that didn't
even exist at the relevant time) for studies of people. Floyd is using
this National view, and dishonestly extrapolates that to cover ALL
people irrespective of who they are as "Inuits".

That is to say he resorts to the typical "whatever it takes", that
includes a lot of LIES, misrepresentation of what others have said,
judicious editing of people's text and falsely attributing statements,
they never made, to other people!

One thing I have constantly and persistently asked him for is PROOF of
the his claimed "fact" of a boat building industry 4000 years ago on
Greenland - he refuses to provide that proof. The stuff up top is not
it. 

-- 
SIR - Philosopher unauthorised 
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