Re: The Cost of Relativity

From: Tom Potter (tdp_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 07/29/04 

Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:38:02 +0800

<jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message
news:ce67qv$l7m$1@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Tom Potter <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > "Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message
> > news:slrncgaic9.2b2.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...
> > > Tom Potter:
> > >
> > > >I wonder of Farnsworth ever used Relativity
> > > >in his numerous tube designs?
> > >
> > > My guess is no. Had he used relativity, the quality of the picture
would
> > > have as bad as modern televisions. Haven't you noticed that technology
> > > peaked in the 1920's and 1930's and since that time televisions have
> > > gotten worse, the space program went down hill, receivers can no
longer
> > > receive satellite signals, mri scanners lie in a state of disrepair,
> > > computers have slowed down to a crawl, osciiloscopes with the
precision
> > > and utility of the tek 511 have been replaced by slipshod knockoffs
like
> > > the TDS3000B. It's just awful. Oh, what I wouldn't give for a real
> > > television set with a steel case full of vacuum tubes, mechanical
contact
> > > tuners, 20 lb high voltage transformers and a floating chassis all
sitting
> > > behind a piece of glass spanning a good chunk of the forward 2 pi
> > > solid angle.
> > >
> > > Come to think of, I'll bet your pappy never once mentioned a
satellite
> > > failure all the through the 1950's. After that, the decline in
computing
> > > power coupled with the declining qualty of electronics test equipment
> > > made every satellite a crap shoot. Yes, I can see why you pine for
> > > the good old days a revel in the past. Yes, it's remarkable just how
> > > much technology has disintegrated.
>
> > "Bilge" what you state above looks like a bunch of bull*** to me.
>
> That's because of your warped vision of reality. It looked good to me.
>
> > What is your position, and
> > can you provide any honest, concurrent information
> > that validates your position?
>
> That should be obvious. He thinks you are a crackpot.
>
> The information to validate that position is just about every post you
> have made.
>
> > There is no doubt that as technology improves,
> > that products also improve.
>
> One of the very, very few rational statements you have made.
>
> > You seem to be claiming credit for physical models,
> > that should go to the folks who made all the little
> > technological improvements all along the way.
>
> That is not in the post at all.
>
> You are just using the salesmen's trick of trying to divert the
conversation
> to a different topic because you are in deep doo.
>
> > I was party to many of the key technological improvements
> > in oscilloscopes, electronics, solid state devices,
> > and computer fields during the 50's, 60's and 70's.
>
> You were a sales droid taking people to lunch and trying to convince them
> your product was the best with glossy brouchers and arm waving.
>
> People with education and intelligence were doing the technological
> improvements.
>
> > Vas you der charley?
> > If so, provide some facts,
> > rather than bull***.
>
> Subject diversion again.
>
> Whether he was "there" or not is irrelevant to the validity of his post.
>
> Once an arm waving sales droid, always an arm waving sales droid.

It is interesting to see that Jim Pennino
thinks [sic] that trying to get someone to
address the issue with ACTUAL FACTS,
rather than attack the messenger,
is "Subject diversion".

Considering that Jim Pennino
is defending the position that Relativity was
essential to, and used in the design of the TV tube,
and oscilloscopes, I challenge him to provide
ACTUAL, concurrent FACTS that support his
position.

Jim Pennino sounds more like a religious nut
quoting John 3/16, rather than a rational, intelligent person
who puts FACTS above Gods, models, personalities,
religions, nationality and ethnicity.

Religious nuts are constantly asserting
that their God is responsible for all good things.

It doesn't work that way Charlie! 

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Tom Potter     http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp