Re: Lapita??

From: benlizross (benlizro_at_ihug.co.nz)
Date: 08/14/04


Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:35:07 +1200

Qiwi wrote:
>
> > benlizrosswrote:
> ......your scenario has the Marquesas
> > as first landfall for a voyage from Ecuador, after which it's (say)
> 400
> > years before they discover anywhere else, why would you expect
> Hawaii or
> > Rapanui to be the next place rather than Tahiti?
> >
> > Ross Clark
> Ross....
> An interesting exercise is to look at the sequence of European
> discovery of the Polynesian Islands..... as with the Polynesian
> settlement sequence the Marquesas are right at the start and Tahiti
> is right at the end....

Well, no. Apart from the exception you mention below, I already pointed
out that Magellan saw at least one of the Tuamotus and did not sight the
Marquesas. And Hawaii comes later than Tahiti. And of course you
completely leave out western Polynesia.
It would be an uninteresting exercise to enumerate all the remaining
respects in which these sequences are not the same. What's your point?

> admittedly Tasmans 'discovery' of Aotearoa is the odd one out but then
> he entered the Pacific by sailing around the bottom of Australia....
>
> Anyway, re: the early discovery by the 'Polynesians' of Hawaii &
> Rapanui....
> I interpret it this way...
> after the initial discovery of the Marquesas from South America the
> discoverers did exactly what one would have expected.... they tried
> to get back to their homeland to inform their people of their
> discovery...
> after realising the impossibility of a direct voyage back they tried
> the next most logical thing... they branched out to the North &
> to the South in an attempt to find a suitable current and so
> discovered Hawaii & Rapanui....

And somehow in the process managed to miss the Society
Islands-Tuamotus-Mangareva, the biggest island screen in the whole
region??

Ross Clark



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