Re: KRS - Possible news to come

From: Philip Deitiker (Donevenask_at_worlnet.att.net)
Date: 09/06/04 

Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:45:16 GMT

Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> says in
news:lplpj0hniff7f3qboq9s5q6uht042blpn8@4ax.com:

>>Inger is trying to put a square peg into a round hole. The
>>claim is that the first evidence of scottish freemasonry
>>was in some of the carvings at the Rosslyn chapel. These
>>have been dated to 1440, and there is probably a connection
>>between this chapel and the ex-templars who apparently
>>migrated to scotland after 1314. However, at that time and
>>in 1440 the number of freemasons was probably a 'small'
>>number, rare percentage of the population.
>
> See http://sinclair.quarterman.org/faq/faq.html
>
> "The Sinclairs were granted the position of Grand Master
> Mason
> of Scotland by James II in 1441. Sir William St.
> Clair, the last male heir of the Rosslyn branch,
> resigned his office as Hereditary Grand Master Mason
> of Scotland to the Scottish Lodges at their foundation
> in 1736"
>
> This suggests that Masonry was alive and well even in 1440.

No argument there, there is an 80 year difference between 1358
and 1440, a point I have made several times. You need to do more
research. The masons hold that their 'scottish' organization
begins between the 13th and 14th century; however public history
is not recognizxed until the 16th nd 17th century, this means
that the organization grew only slowly, as things did in the
13th and 14th century.

Again do you have any proof that the 'free'masonic organization
was robust enough in 1358 to have members join expeditions to
greenland? If you do your research properly you would find
that the number of masons in 1358 agrees with what I have been
telling you. I will give you a hint, how many lodges existed in
and around Edinburgh in 1350, how many lodges existed elsewhere
in scotland. Assume that the average membership of a lodge is 40
people. When you have found this information you will know
approximately the robustness of masonry in Scotland in 1358.
Also take a guess at how many of those would have been familiar
with runes. From that number I will state that ~30 of the
members were from france, and given doubling of that number to
60 you can subtract these out, leaving you with __ who might
[remote] potentially been familiar with runology via family
history. Also if you are very lucky you find the language of
these early masons, where they writing in runes, latin,
latinized english or scottish. Should you find this then you
would know also the primary tongue of those early masons. I
doubt you will find any notations in rune. 

-- 
Philip
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