Re: how do modern day egyptians feel about the ancient egyptians?

From: Tom McDonald (tmcdonald2672_at_nohormelcharter.net)
Date: 09/25/04 

Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:39:26 -0500

Yog-Sothoth wrote:
> Goat like "Tedd Jacobs" <Jacobs@mail.boisestate.edu> while grazing
> in <cj219e026lg@enews4.newsguy.com>, made the following shapes:
>

<snip>

>>again you appeal to *our* culture.
>
>
> No I am not. Culture is irrelevant. And that's what I am writing.

        You contend that culture is irrelevant. You've been shown
evidence that this is not so. Either give the necessary and
sufficient evidence to prove your contention, or admit that you
don't have it and that all this is just you having an opinion.

>
>
>>you cannot base an argument on personal
>>ideologies or current cultural moral values (especially when you dismiss it
>>from being a cultural crime).
>
>
> And I am not doing so. I have already stated that the reason I
> believe paedophilia is wrong. It is because it is harmful for
> children. The society just follows on that.

        No, 'society' doesn't. Ours does, and that's why we see it as
harmful. Other societies don't, or didn't, and do not see it as
harmful, at least in the application we've been discussing.

        Repeated assertion does nothing for the validity of your case.

>
>
>>i agree that it is wrong. however, just
>>because something is culturally unacceptable now does not mean it was
>>culturally unacceptable in the past.
>
>
> Again, show me where I based anything on that.

        *Everything* you've written has been based on current cultural
unacceptability. The references you have given are to current
Western cultural norms. I don't know why it is so hard for you
to see that.

Let me quote me again:
>
> "It is wrong not because our culture bans it but the other way
> around. Our culture bans it because it IS wrong and harming for the
> victim and we know better."

        '[W]e know better'. Wonderful. Oddly enough, many cultures
know better than we, and don't ban it, or have different norms
about it. See, it's your smug sense of cultural superiority
that grates; and it seems to be stopping you from actually
discussing the issue.

>
> Notice the first part. "It is wrong not because our culture bans it"

        Sigh. 

-- 
Tom McDonald

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