Re: Spirit Pond, Maine
From: I E Johansson (ingerxjohanssonx_at_telia.com)
Date: 09/28/04
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:29:30 GMT
"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:38:03 -0500, Tom McDonald
> <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
>
> >Eric Stevens wrote:
> >> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:12:04 -0500, Tom McDonald
> >> <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Tedd Jacobs wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>"I E Johansson" wrote...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Tom,
> >>>>>I am not ignorant of the Pre-Elizabethian English artifacts in NA,
BUT and
> >>>>>there is a bigh BUT contrary to several hundred Scandinavian and
> >>>>>Greenlandic
> >>>>>Pre-Columbian artifacts which I know from excavation reports and
photos to
> >>>>>have been found either in layers dated to Pre-Columbian days or under
more
> >>>>>than 100 cm sedimentlayer below todays surface, I never been able to
find
> >>>>>one single such excavation report which dates the layer around the
> >>>>>Pre-Elizabethian English artifacts to be contemporary with their age
or at
> >>>>>least having been found in Pre-Columbian dated layer under surface.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>That's the big difference. If you know of any such excavation report
I am
> >>>>>sure that many here would be glad to here more about that.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>absolutely. i would love to hear more about the excavation reports to
which
> >>>>you refer. where are they published?
> >>>
> >>>Tedd,
> >>>
> >>> There are tens of thousands of excavation reports that refer to
> >>>pre-Columbian artifacts in the New World. There are even more
> >>>that refer to pre-Elizabethan artifacts in the New World. I'm
> >>>sure you've read tons of them yourself, as have I and most
> >>>others interested in the pre-Columbian story.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> You know very well that Inger is thinking in terms of pre-Elizabethan
> >> artifacts of European origin while you are steaming past her in the
> >> opposite direction talking about pre-Elizabethan artifacts of North
> >> American origin.
> >
> >Eric,
> >
> > Of course. I think, as I wrote elsewhere, that it's worth
> >keeping in mind that there is far, far more to North American
> >pre-Columbian archaeology than Vikings. If we are going to
> >start another one of these discussions, let's keep that in mind.
>
> Actually there does seem to be a great deal of possibly Norse (I
> prefer that to Viking) artifacts lying around. Most of them are of
> poor provenanace and tend to be largely ignored by the mainstream.
> Nevertheless, Inger's enthusiasm seems to be at least partly justified
> in that I get the impression that there is ground swell of new
> interest in their study from reputable sources. Lets see what the
> situation is in five years from now ("Good things take time, you
> know")
You will not have to wait that long Eric. The new analyses of several
iron-artifacts includes analyse of where the iron origin from in metallurgic
perspective, which method been used + study of all information connected to
the finding which in many cases already have presented a good context.
Inger E
>
>
>
>
> Eric Stevens
>
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