Re: oldest American skull found!
From: Doug Weller (dweller_at_ramtops.thisremove.co.uk)
Date: 10/10/04
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 12:59:52 +0100
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:54:24 GMT, I_ E. Johansson wrote:
> "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> skrev i meddelandet
> news:9nmhm01e1ie3hq8rer88nrrdrv16hrdejk@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:52:45 -0500, Tom McDonald
>> <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Larry Caldwell wrote:
>>>> In article
> <BqI9d.679033$Gx4.459134@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>>>> Donevenask@worlnet.att.net (Philip Deitiker) says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>NAGPRA is not a stupid law, it guarantees that Native American
>>>>>remains are treated as respectively as Europeans remains even
>>>>>though the burial traditions differ markedly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Native Americans need to get over it. Take a look at the thread about
>>>> Medieval Surgeons. They dug up 700 Yorkshire skeletons from 1000 years
>>>> ago to take a look at them. Nobody cares. That's your example of
>>>> treating remains 'respectively' as Europeans.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, Indians don't have to get over it. We need to work
>>>together to develop a workable system that respects everyone and
>>>their beliefs.
>>
>> Frankly, I don't think that's possible.
>
> No it isn't.
Why isn't it possible? The problem is that it is not actually necessary to
know anything about prehistoric skeletons. It's just nice. And although I
myself can't understand people caring about ancient skeletons in the way
some Indians and others do, I also can't say that my interest in the
skeletons is more important than theirs.
So again, why isn't it possible?
Doug
[SNIP]
while it would have been nice to know in advance before tests
> and studies have been preformed on skeletons found who the person once was
> and where he had his roots, that isn't possible. Tests and studies of the
> remains from early settlers in NA as well as elsewhere are needed for many
> different reasons. That's not the same as when skeletons of aborginals in
> Australia were brought to Europe's and NA's Museums. That was and still is
> unrespectful. I am glad that Sweden at least have started to return them to
> their home.
>
> There are many aspects which contradict todays claims by tribe not to have
> skeletons tested and their DNA-analysed. First of all who can in advance say
> which skeleton that 'belong' to which tribe. Tribes and people have moved
> over the millinium that passed and no one can start their claim by saying
> that Pre-Columbian skeletons MUST be native. You don't know before you
> tested and studied them, can you? That's said one still have to treat the
> skeletons with respect but that doesn't exclude tests and analyses.
>
> Inger E
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>> Eric Stevens
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