Re: oldest American skull found!

From: I_ E. Johansson (ingerxjohanssonx_at_telia.com)
Date: 10/10/04 

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:54:35 GMT

"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.thisremove.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
news:1wmxwyuxb3s56$.1kk81pwbn8u9r.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 07:54:24 GMT, I_ E. Johansson wrote:
>
> > "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:9nmhm01e1ie3hq8rer88nrrdrv16hrdejk@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:52:45 -0500, Tom McDonald
> >> <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Larry Caldwell wrote:
> >>>> In article
> > <BqI9d.679033$Gx4.459134@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> >>>> Donevenask@worlnet.att.net (Philip Deitiker) says...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>NAGPRA is not a stupid law, it guarantees that Native American
> >>>>>remains are treated as respectively as Europeans remains even
> >>>>>though the burial traditions differ markedly.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Native Americans need to get over it. Take a look at the thread
about
> >>>> Medieval Surgeons. They dug up 700 Yorkshire skeletons from 1000
years
> >>>> ago to take a look at them. Nobody cares. That's your example of
> >>>> treating remains 'respectively' as Europeans.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> No, Indians don't have to get over it. We need to work
> >>>together to develop a workable system that respects everyone and
> >>>their beliefs.
> >>
> >> Frankly, I don't think that's possible.
> >
> > No it isn't.
>
> Why isn't it possible? The problem is that it is not actually necessary
to
> know anything about prehistoric skeletons. It's just nice.

I understand you point, but you don't understand where I am coming from.
There definitely are many reasons why old skeleton should be tested. You
might not know it but recent years studies of skeleton from Arctic regions
dying in Late Medieval Age - Early Modern have made it possible to produce
vaccin which after ordinary testing can be used for some of the diceses
which once again have started to 'circle' our world. That's only one type of
necessary tests to perform also on skeleton which might be native.

Inger E

 And although I
> myself can't understand people caring about ancient skeletons in the way
> some Indians and others do, I also can't say that my interest in the
> skeletons is more important than theirs.
>
> So again, why isn't it possible?
>
> Doug
>
> [SNIP]
> while it would have been nice to know in advance before tests
> > and studies have been preformed on skeletons found who the person once
was
> > and where he had his roots, that isn't possible. Tests and studies of
the
> > remains from early settlers in NA as well as elsewhere are needed for
many
> > different reasons. That's not the same as when skeletons of aborginals
in
> > Australia were brought to Europe's and NA's Museums. That was and still
is
> > unrespectful. I am glad that Sweden at least have started to return them
to
> > their home.
> >
> > There are many aspects which contradict todays claims by tribe not to
have
> > skeletons tested and their DNA-analysed. First of all who can in advance
say
> > which skeleton that 'belong' to which tribe. Tribes and people have
moved
> > over the millinium that passed and no one can start their claim by
saying
> > that Pre-Columbian skeletons MUST be native. You don't know before you
> > tested and studied them, can you? That's said one still have to treat
the
> > skeletons with respect but that doesn't exclude tests and analyses.
> >
> > Inger E
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Eric Stevens
> >>

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