Re: Sources, works and translations

From: I.E. Johansson (ingerxx_e.johanssonx_at_telia.com)
Date: 10/21/04 

Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:39:39 GMT

Day,
Alan don't know me. Never met me. Don't know my friends no matter that he
claimed he knew to persons - who never had heard of him while checking.
What he call a smoke-screen is only in Alan Crozier's own imagination. Alan
knows perfectly well that an alike case where a person wrote as he has done
in his message and in the past resulted in conviction in court.

I never ever written a lie to the groups. No matter what Alan Crozier of
what might be personal reasons tries to make believe. I know that he doesn't
like the fact that neither he nor any other linguist in their presented
assumptions of non-proven scenario has been able to speak 'away' the fact
that the Kensington runestone wasn't carved in 19th century no matter what
the linguists believe.
It's 100% water-tight that the stone was carved before 1700 AD. I am not
putting forward that it was carved in 1362. That I don't know. I myself have
a good known forger noted in books from 16th century to have travelled via
Iceland from the Danish King's court in order to participate to retake lost
land in NA. I can prove the said person born in 1470's to have had access to
the documents we today call Diploma and which spoke of Paul Knutson's and
Ivar Bardson's voyage to NA. Thus I easily can imagin that said priest might
well have carved the stone in 1520's. But since there is a hard debate here
in Sweden and elsewhere between the Linguists and scholar of Science in the
old Science meaning refering to exact verified science test results.... well
since I put this forward in groups I have had a lot of attacks from strawmen
and scholars of other disciplins then History and Geology.

Inger E

"Day Brown" <daybrown@hypertech.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:4177204a$1_1@127.0.0.1...
> Alan Crozier wrote:
> > Please don't indulge this fraud by engaging in this smokescreen
discussion.
>
> I dont have a dog in this fite. However, the subject comes up
> repeatedly. Something I've often wondered about, is wny anyone
> interested in Pre-Christian literature would not look into Sogdian and
> Tocharian sources.... which a) were not Christian, and b) existed even
> before the middle ages, when some of the evolution of language at issue
> ran down a different path. Besides which there are even earlier texts,
> some dating BCE, which have been preserved by the cold alkaline dry
> ground conditions in the deserts of Central Asia.
>
> Which at that time, had not yet been over-run by either the Mongols or
> the Islamic Semites, and still had their Indo-European/Aryan roots
> intact. Take for instance the earliest copy of Gilgamesh, which was
> found in Northern Iraq, written in Mitanni, which is not a semetic, but
> an Aryan language. The Mitanni were an Indo-European horse culture that
> moved into the region 5000 years ago from the North.
>
> I dare say that scholars of Beowolf, or other early herioc tales would
> see in the Mitanni texts a similar figure confronting similar problems.
>
> The other thing is that while ancient texts in Europe only survived when
> written in stone, (so there aint much to go on) whereas Sogdian and
> Tocharian scrolls would fill a U-Haul.
>
> It is curious as well that the 'Wiccans', who are also interested in
> non-Christian sources, havent taken the time to get into this abundant
> source of ancient Native European culture.
>
>
>
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