Re: Spirit Pond, Maine

From: Eric Stevens (eric.stevens_at_sum.co.nz)
Date: 10/23/04 

Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:55:52 +1300

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:09:45 GMT, Philip Deitiker
<Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote:

>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> says in
>news:ridkn0httd3isb1ii7uj07k2s15fjsuu7b@4ax.com:
>
>> It has already been demonstrated by Michael Zalar some time
>> ago. See http://tinyurl.com/3pdav
>
>Evasive, answer the question/
>
>>>Right, unlike you and your friend Inger, I don't like
>>>wasting UseNet and Internet band width with post, and in
>>>particular I get a message when quoted text is excessive.
>>
>> Also unlike me, you don't mind altering the apparent thrust
>> of an argument by deleting sections of it without saying
>> so.
>
>You have a reader that can thread post, if not get one. I am not
>responsible for the behavior of UseNet challenged individuals.

You are responsible for your own.
>
>> But only if they know that something has been deleted.
>
>You don't remember what you wrote. Pitty.

Its not me I'm concerned about. Its other people who do not realise
that you are offering a slected version of what has been previously
said.
>
>>>In the first paragraph of this thread you reiterated what
>>>you said, and now you are saying I have to go back in
>>>requote. Do you like arguing with the wind, also?
>>
>> I take it you are referring to my statement in repsonse to
>> you that "In some cases they were and this has been
>> demonstrated". What I wrote then is demonstrably correct
>> (see the URL above) and you would know that if you had been
>> following this matter for more than the length of this
>> thread.
>
>I followed the thread and I disagree, Zalar made a minor
>correction, as is expected in these types of things. While he
>and you may think the errors were major, they still place a date
>off by 3 decades.

Here we go again. You have snipped the URL http://tinyurl.com/3pdav
which will enable people to go back and decide for themselves exactly
how reliable is your statement that 'Zalar made a minor correction'.
In fact, Michael Zalar mad not 'a' (singular) but 'many' corrections
which in their totality are anything but minor in the story of the
KRS.
>
>> What do you think you have corrected me on? Do you think I
>> am wrong when I say that sections of the book are
>> demonstrably wrong?
>
>What you said was that believe the authors were villianous ...

Your words, not mine. The accurate quote is not your forte, is it?
... and you with scholarly pretentions.

> ... in
>their intent could easily be confused. Any book, paper, even
>peer-reviewed primary literature has errors in it, minor errors
>do not equal some conspiracy to deprive the world of the facts.
>This is what you implied, not it appears you are denying it.

Actually, I did not make that claim but I will in fact make that claim
and what's more I know that it is proveable. The only question is who
is a conspirator and who is merely a camp follower?
>
>> I have copies of 'prime documents' which prove my case.
>
>Where?

On the moon. Where do you think? Note the word 'copies'.
>
>> They are exactly the same as the ones Michael Zalar relied
>> upon when he made his criticism and I have to say that they
>> support his views.
>
>He made a minor adjustment of the dates.

Just as well I restored that URL. Here it is again.
http://tinyurl.com/3pdav
>
>> In that case I suggest you stay quiet until you actually
>> know what you are talking about.
>
>And you do? But somehow you can't quote from the book or the
>refutiations these supposedly 'villianous' ommissions in the
>book.

Why repeat what Michael Zalar has already written? I've given you that
before. Here it is again http://tinyurl.com/3pdav
>
>>>Is there something specific about what Micheal said that
>>>suddenly makes a connection between Helluland and KRS that
>>>I missed?
>>
>> Probably.
>
>That is not an answer, it is more Steven's evasion.

Its not an evasion. Its just that I don't exactly know off the cuff
and I'm damned if I'm going to let you lead me in argument all over
the landscape. I expect there is such a connection but you can go find
it yourself.
>
>> I was criticising his honesty.
>
>As I am criticizing yours.

You have yet to make a case.

Eric Stevens