Re: Old Persian Scripts

From: Philip Deitiker (Donevenask_at_worlnet.att.net)
Date: 11/20/04 

Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:57:21 GMT

"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> says in
news:419F5C24.36AF@worldnet.att.net:

> Philip Deitiker wrote:
>>
>> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> says in
>> news:419F4369.65A1@worldnet.att.net:
>>
>> > It's important to me to know what agenda I appear to be
>> > pushing.
>>
>> Science is the art of dealing with packagable certainty
>> and uncertainty. You speak as if you know the answer
>> before it has been ever so more than casually
>> investigated. That is the thinking of a religious mind,
>> not a scientific one.
>
> How's that?
>
> Old Persian has been readable since 1802; Mesopotamian
> cuneiform has been readable since before 1850; Ugaritic has
> been readable since 1931. Do you suppose that if there were
> similarities between the shapes of signs for similar
> sounds, they wouldn't have been noticed by now?

Cuneiform is one of the earliest written formats certainly one
of the oldest phonetic formats, that similar but not identical
forms appear elsewhere in close proximity is not coincidental.
For example in Japan there was Kange, chinese Han characters,
later they invented two new alphabets that were phonetic in
nature. You have some idea that archaeologist have a
thorough vision of the mechanism of cultural evolution. They do
not, and the evolution/adaptation of one script to another can
occur so rapidly as to be missed even by observers of that
period of time, let alone the present, particularly if that
evolution takes place in the inner sanctoms of some court. The
point is that medes had a civilization and also had scholars,
the medes were in close contact with the babylonians before the
'persians' had come of age, as a result it is expected if the
elamites and medes had script it probably evolved from a
cuniform of the mesopotamians and not out of the thin blue sky.
  Conceptually 3 ideas follow in persia that which occurred
first in mesopotamia.

1. Writing
2. Modality of writing.
3. Recording of history and historical events in writing 

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