Re: 'fiske' answer to Alan and others

From: Alan Crozier (alan.crazier_at_telia.com)
Date: 12/18/04 

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:22:21 GMT

"I.E_Johansson" <inger_e.johansson@telia.com> wrote in message
news:1jYwd.124726$dP1.447216@newsc.telia.net...
> Alan,
> contrary to what you believe, those examples DO show what I put forward.

Sorry, they don't.

> I know it's hard for you as well as many linguists and other to understand
> this.

The only thing I have serious difficulties in understanding is why you
believe some Scandinavians could carve a chatty message on a runestone in
Minnesota in 1362. If they really thought they could collect tithes there,
they deserve to have been killed for their stupidity.

> the 'fiske' is one example out of many where you have to accept that what
> you are dealing with is a language under 'improvement' and that when you
> have a phrase as 'Wi war ok fiske' have the conjugation of the verb
'fiska'
> as well as in word such as 'bära' and other in the late younger
> 'fornsvenska' and the older 'Nysvenska' came to be more common than what
you
> seem to be aware of.
> Examples for this is:
> I bären, vi bäre

Are you trying to say that the message on the KRS has "wi war" in the past
but "fiske" in the present indicative first person plural?

That's even fishier.

You don't have to tell me that langauge varied in time and place in medieval
Sweden. Everybody knows that, it applies to all language. Some of the
changes that have occurred to result in modern Swedish cannot be traced back
as far as the Middle Ages. Among these are some of the things written by the
19th-century forger of the KRS. You can prove me mistaken by finding some
medieval examples of a plural verb without any plural ending and some
examples of the construction "vara ok göra". Forget about variations in
spelling. That's not the point.

> And the examples I put forward before which you didn't accept. I don't
> accept your views but I do appreciate that you at least take yourself time
> to read and not dismiss without reading.

Naturally you don't accept any evidence against the authenticity of the KRS.
Your problem.

Alan 

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Alan Crozier
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