Re: Ivar Bardson's usage of abbrevations former Re: AVM, Freemasons and the Larson papers dismissed

From: Dylan Sung (dylanwhs.tsktsktsk_at_pacific.net.hk)
Date: 12/30/04 

Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:33:53 -0000

"Daryl Krupa" <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104391278.995517.177610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Dylan Sung wrote:
> > "Daryl Krupa" <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Dylan Sung wrote:
> > > > "Daryl Krupa" <icycalmca@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > In Norse and Icelandic,
> > > > > "eša"
> > > > > means
> > > > > "or"
> > > > > and is pronounced as something like the English
> > > > > "either."
> > > >
> > > > either can be pronounced aID@ or i:D@
> > >
> > > Dyl.:
> > > I fear that you will have to provide me with
> > > a pronunciation guide for those characters.
> >
> > I think you need to look for Evan Kirchenbaum's ASCII IPA
> > somewhere on the net. D in his notation is š, T is greek
> > letter theta etc. @ is the schwa.
> >
> > eye-thur / eee-thur
>
> Dylan:
> I found these sites:
>
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Evan_Kirshenbaum/IPA/english.html
>
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Evan_Kirshenbaum/IPA/faq.html

Those be his alrighty. However, he's mainly approached it for the use in
English, and doesn't hold a complete set of IPA symbols. However, it's got
wide spread usage, and sci.lang uses it as well.

>
> But I do not see a sound for the colon, which you used in
> "i:D@", above.
>
> Do you have an alternative source for Kirshenbaum's system,
> which includes the sound for the colon, please?

In IPA there's a symbol looking like : used for vowel lengthening.

<snip>
>
> I've tried to learn something about Icelandic grammar, but
> I keep getting stuck on the Latin terms for grammatical forms
> and variations, some of which I cannot find definitions for.

I think it's better not to dwell on the definitions too much. For me,
masculine, feminine and neuter, don't always seem to be logical so I just
consider them as just names to call a group of stuff.

> And some Icelandic writing that I have tried to translate
> doesn't seem to follow the formal rules that I've seen.

Perhaps it's skaldic, where bits of the sentence are in an odd order to add
drama etc.

> It is a puzzlement, and I can see why there is such a
> variation in translations of Old Norse inscriptions.
>
> Daryl Krupa
>
> P.S.: Are you any relation to Dr. Noonian Soong?
>
> http://www.startreklives.de/personnel/non_soong.htm
>
> Or Dr. Arik Soong, his great-grandfather?
> http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/Arik_Soong
>
> <G> <G> <G>

They're my future descendents, after I move over to Taiwan, and get my
romanised name changed in about another few decades time, before emigrating
to the US to await the ultimate heathen extermination by Min and his
cohorts. My heirs will be well protected in a secret underground Soongian
scientific and technological complex, someplace which only heirs of mine can
open with their DNA and password. They will strive to create their own
spaceship, and move off to a lonely isolated planetoid far far away, so that
they can have some quite time to ponder the mysteries of a positronic brain.

:)

Dyl.

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