Re: New archaeological evidence casts doubt on mega-tsunami theory of Minoan collapse

From: Dylan Sung (dylanwhs.tsktsktsk_at_pacific.net.hk)
Date: 01/07/05 

Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:35:38 -0000

"grapheus" <grapheus@www.com> wrote in message
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>
> Dylan Sung wrote:
> > "grapheus" <grapheus@www.com> wrote in message
> > news:1105101156.182240.87670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Dylan Sung wrote:
> > > > "grapheus" <grapheus@www.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1105092214.099637.177350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > Dylan Sung wrote:
> > > > > > "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:f6grt0hpbqi3o0khbjcoi9mmbuqe5oshco@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > On 6 Jan 2005 14:07:17 -0800, "grapheus" <grapheus@www.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Eric Stevens wrote:
> > > > > > >>> On 6 Jan 2005 11:22:03 -0800, "grapheus"
> > > > > > >>> <grapheus@www.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>> >A tsunami is provoked by the moving of the Earth's crust
> > > > > > >>> >in a marine zone.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> That's one way of provoking it.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>What do you mean "that's one way" ? To get a water-wave,
> > > > > > >>you need some displacement of the sea-bottom : a surge,
> > > > > > >>or a collapse, or an horizontal move, etc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can get much the same result by tossing a rock into the
> > > > > > > water. Duncan Steel http://aca.mq.edu.au/People/Dsteel.htm
> > > > > > > has calculated that an 800m dia meteor would createa
> > > > > > > tsunami of much the same same size as the current one. The
> > > > > > > pattern would be different of course.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When a major piece of ice breaks off an iceshelf, it causes a
> > > > > > huge displacement of water which may result in a tsunami. So
> > > > > > earthquakes aren't the sources of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where did you learn that ? In your favourite comic strip ?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ceux qui n'ont rien à dire tiennent absolument à le dire"
> > > > > (Pierre Dac)
> > > > >
> > > > > grapheus
> > > >
> > > > So what are you saying, that ice breaking off an iceshelf or
> > > > glacier isn't capable of making a tsunami wave?
> > >
> > > AND HERE YOU GO AGAIN with your way of NEVER BEING ABLE TO
> > > UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WRITTEN, and your STRANGE LOGIC !!!
> >
> > Rewinding, for your understanding...
> >
> > Eric stevens replied to your comment on how tsumanis were 'provoked'
> > that your exaplanation was one way to 'provoke' a tsunami, to which
> > you said, 'What do you mean "that's one way" ? To get a water-wave,
> > you need some displacement of the sea-bottom : a surge, or a
> > collapse, or an horizontal move, etc.'
>
> Your "rewinding" just shows that you are UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND what is
> written :
> In fact, I - OBVIOUSLY for anybody but YOU - wanted to point out that
> tsunamis are NOT so much linked to an Earthquake than to the "MOVING of
> the Earth's crust in a marine zone" (my own words).
> To what Eric wanted to add : "or tossing a rock into the water", what
> is correct.

And my comment was about other sources of tsunami, to add to Eric's comment
about rock fall and meteors.

> Then you came in, REINVENTING THE WHEEL. As you say :
>
> > I added the comment that other methods of tsunami causation are
> > possible, "so Earthquakes aren't the sources of them"
>
> This is why I ironically asked you where you had learned that !...

And how is that reinventing the wheel? Is Eric reinventing the wheel for
mentioning rocks and meteors? Obviously you're just interested in attacking
me for any reason.

> A sentence that, of course, you did not understand, although I cited a
> French saying from Pierre Dac !..

So you expect me to understand something in French, even though you know I
don't understand French very well? Is that showing your wisdom, or is that
just to show me that I don't understand French very well? As for the latter,
I already know my French is not very good. As for the former, it just shows
you are too clever for your own good.

>
> It really a craze of you : As soon as there is a discussion ON A
> SUBJECT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW, you push yourself to the first row to
> participate in it. As you HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE to SAY, you generally
> repeat the "general opinion", REINVENTING the WHEEL (as in the present
> case) and SAYING WHAT EVERYBODY KNOWS.

So who else wrote about ice as a possible cause for tsunamis before I
joined? How is my raising this point of interest 'saying what everybody
knows'?

> I've NEVER read anything of you which was original or instructive :
> you JUST REPEAT like a parrot the opinion of others, be it right or
> sometimes wrong...
> YOUR ONLY AIM is to TALK, to TALK, to TALK... Mainly WHEN YOU HAVE
> NOTHING to SAY !!!!!
> grapheus

Yawn.

Dyl.

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