Re: Interesting archeological discovery - Emperor Qin's tomb

From: University Studies (gov-statistics_at_no.spam)
Date: 01/21/05 

Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:57:47 GMT

"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.removethisdemon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:58:34 -0600, in sci.archaeology, Tom McDonald
> wrote:
>
> >I.E_Johansson wrote:
> >> "Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.removethisdemon.co.uk> skrev i
meddelandet
> >> news:pcd0v0h9dotuijaobaij8hj08mdsaq0g80@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:45:32 GMT, in sci.archaeology, I.E_Johansson
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"Bobby D. Bryant" <bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu> skrev i meddelandet
> >>>>news:csopmn$oah$5@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu...
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, "University Studies" <gov-statistics@no.spam>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>"David B" <tronospamchos@tesco.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:3LOHd.100$l8.99@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Amazingly, next year will be the 30th anniversary of the unearthing
> >>
> >> of
> >>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>first terracotta soldiers. How time flies.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>True David, many thousands of terra cotta warriors surrounding the
> >>>>>>underground palace have been unearthed, but as of 2005 they still
> >>
> >> have
> >>
> >>>>not
> >>>>
> >>>>>>entered the main underground palace. This may turn out to be one of
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>>most
> >>>>
> >>>>>>monumental excavations of the century. I wish they would hurry up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Quote from the link below;
> >>>>>>
> >>>
>
>>>http://www.travelchinaguide.com/attraction/shaanxi/xian/terra_cotta_army/
ma
> >>
> >> u
> >>
> >>>>soleum_6.htm
> >>>>
> >>>>>> "The underground palace boasts a microcosm of
> >>>>>> the heavens and the earth. The historical records
> >>>>>> of the first century BC state " Work on his tomb
> >>>>>> began as soon as Emperor Qin gained power.
> >>>>>> The tomb contains palaces and pavilions filled
> >>>>>> with rare gems and other treasures, and is
> >>>>>> equipped with crossbows to shoot automatically
> >>>>>> any intruders!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hey, now we have a story for the next Indiana Jones movie!
> >>>>
> >>>>No that Chinese information is 100% correct. I thought that many
turists
> >>>
> >>>>from US as well as from the 'Old World' had been there so this was
> >>
> >> wellknown
> >>
> >>>>information.
> >>>
> >>>Ok, I'll bite. How can anyone know what is actually in an unexplored
tomb?
> >>
> >>
> >> When did you your homework on the site in question last? If you had you
> >> would have known that while no one had believed the army to exist
before it
> >> was found the details for that as well as the latest years findings
have
> >> been known from a written documentation of the time. It's never been
> >> believed mostly because it contains details as that the world is copied
and
> >> the seas, lakes and river in miniature-sizes have circulating 'water'
in
> >> form of mercury/quicksilver. It's said to hold the largest fortune in
> >> juwelery ever seen and so on. The details for the 'defending'-system
are
> >> presented as are all the artifacts found up to this day. The later is
the
> >> reason why scholars and archaeologists at least expect the
> >> 'defending-system' or attack on anyone trying to enter the tomb might
be
> >> according to written source.
> >>
> >
> >Johansson,
> >
> > So no one knows what is in the tomb, including you; but there
> >are documents that are said to describe it? In other words, no
> >one knows what is in the tomb, but there is speculation. Is that
> >right? The documentation you mention isn't from the Qin, but
> >from the Han. The Han had recently vanquished the Qin when the
> >tomb was written about. It may or may not be the case that the
> >scribe had access to someone who knew the details of the tomb;
> >but in any case, the document is not a primary source about the
> >contents of the tomb; and I don't know whether the scribe was
> >influenced by political considerations or not. Do you?
> >
> Hey, that's what I was going to say! Inger insists that something is true
> not on the basis of physical evidence but of written evidence (which even
> if contemporary may not have been true).
>
> I worry about these Swedish methods courses Inger keeps talking about,
> they can lead one to believe that all sorts of fantastical ideas are
> truth.
>
> > I am intrigued by the observation that levels of mercury in the
> >soil around the tomb are elevated; that suggests the
> >*possibility* part of the legend might be based on fact.
> >However, no one knows exactly what is in the tomb; and no one
> >will know until the tomb is opened, or until new remote sensing
> >technology is invented and applied to the site.
>
> 2 good reasons to wait to excavate --

I would advise China to enter the tomb now. Dig downwards next to the
Underground Palace, then drill up an angle up into the palace wall. Drill a
good-sized hole, wait to allow any liquids to drain out, then send a robot
camera up into the Palace area to look around.

It's going to be a big find.

Here's another article on Emperor Qin's tomb. The article isn't too recent,
but it does give detailed more info on it
http://www.bjreview.com.cn/200304/Culture-200304.htm

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