Re: Lewes artifacts, Delaware and Pennsylvania

From: Doug Weller (dweller_at_ramtops.removethisdemon.co.uk)
Date: 01/30/05 

Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 08:53:17 +0000

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:39:02 GMT, in sci.archaeology, I.E_Johansson wrote:
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>The latest I heard is definitely not 18th century. There have been
>wood-pieces identified to 1600's early days and there have been information
>on items which place it as a shipwreck of unknown idenity going down 1633.
>Which by the fits some of the artifacts I seen. Same type or very alik
>artifacts seen from the early days after Gothenburg's founding. Where can
>those artifacts be seen? At Göteborgs Stadsmuseum. If it's older we have an
>other place to compare with Lödöse Museum.

Some pictures here:
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2005/01/01lewesbeachoffer.html

http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/12/13beachartifactsb.html

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2004/12/17/dm/sussex_county/dsn03.txt

Note the quote in the last url:
"Charles Fithian, an archaeologist with the Division of Historical and
Cultural Affairs, said the items found so far have been from the first
half of the 18th century."

Two more but from a Treasur Hunter's site:

http://www.losttreasure.com/newsletter/12-21-2004/LTNews.cfm

http://www.losttreasure.com/newsletter/1-5-2005/LTNews.cfm

The Pennsylvania archaeologist Mark McConaughy who provided me with these
says about the second one:
"It clearly shows Delft ware sherds (aka, tin-glazed earthenware -- the
white and blue glazed stuff) and various red ware sherds. The Delft ware
stuff definitely dates to between the late 1600's and early 1700's.
(BTW - click on the photo of the sherds to get a larger view of them)
The photo clearly shows Delft ware sherds (aka, tin-glazed earthenware
-- the white and blue glazed stuff) and various red ware sherds. The
Delft ware stuff definitely dates to between the late 1600's and early
1700's.
The other objects I wouldn't want to definitely ID without closer views.
However, there appears to be a brick in the lower right. Two pieces of
what appears to be green bottle glass (looks rectanguloid, if so, it is
from case bottles usually filled with gin). The white sherds in the lower
left are hard to ID without a closer look. White salt-glazed wares are
mid-1700s, but don't bet on those being white salt-glazed sherds right
now. There also looks as if ther is a gray salt-glazed sherd in the
bottom of the shot.
It good be a from a German stein -- again, without looking at it closely,
I wouldn't want to bet my life on that ID."

So once again, what is your source that argues that these are definitely
not 18th century and are Scandinavian?

Doug 

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