Re: Did native Americans cultivate Lime tree?

From: Daryl Krupa (icycalmca_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 02/04/05

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    David B wrote:
    > Daryl Krupa wrote in message
    > <1107400652.351175.219180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>...
    > >
    > >David B wrote:
    > >
    > >> Daryl,
    > >> If Inger is working from a modern Swedish edition
    > >> of Kalm's manuscript diaries (as opposed to the
    > >> summaries published and translated in his own
    > >> era), it might be best to ask what date(s) he
    > >> mentions finding the "avenues" etc.
    > >
    > >David B.:
    > >I might try that; so far, all that I have received
    > >is a notification that page numbers are not available.
    > >I still don't know whether the avenues are
    > >mentioned in the Diaries or the Travels, or both,
    > >or neither. All that I know is just that the avenues
    > >are mentioned in Volume 4 of something.
    >
    > That's the thing. It's
    > volume 4 of a specific edition of Kalm,
    > published 1966-88 in Sweden,
    > in which volume 4 at least is based solely on the
    > surviving diaries, due to the loss of Kalm's proposed
    > for-publication summary text in a fire in 1827.

    David B.:
    Thanx for teh clarification.
    I must have missed that info.
    I do not have access to that version, sadly.

    But I can look at this:

    Title:
    Peter Kalm's travels in North America : the America of 1750 :
    the English version of 1770 /
    revised from the original Swedish and
    edited by Adolph B. Benson ;
    with a translation of new material from Kalm's diary notes.

    Physical descrip:
    2 v. (xvii, 797 p.) : ill., maps (part fold.) ; 22 cm.

    Publication info:
    New York : Dover Publications [1966, c1937]

    Local catalogue number:
    E 162 K14

    > So if Inger can just tell us the diary date
    > of even one single entry
    > (e.g. the monk episode she mentions in her reply
    > to your above message)
    > it should be possible to track it down in either
    > the original manuscripts (or a facsimile thereof)
    > or maybe even in the old American translation
    > which also got round the "lost volume" problem by
    > using the diaries:
    > "Peter Kalm's travels in North America"
    > edited by Adolph Benson (latest reprint, Dover 1966).

    This note suggests that the Dover edition might even be
    a product of the same effort as that which produced the
    Swedish publication:

    General note:
      Includes only those portions of the original work
    dealing with the United States and Canada.
    "The hitherto untranslated portion ...
    has been done into English by Miss Edith M. L. Carlborg ...
    and the present editor. The remainder ...
    is based on Forster's translation."

    So it might well be possible to see Kalm's reference to
    avenues of limes or linden's in my local library's copy.

    I'll check it out and take it home.
    Might be a useful remedy for my insomnia ...
    -
    Daryl Krupa

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