Re: Lime tree and Swedes living like Indians.

From: Alaca (P.Alaca_at_is.invalid)
Date: 02/12/05 

Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:41:37 +0100

Daryl Krupa wrote in:
1108191431.654748.187430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com,

> Alaca wrote:
>> Daryl Krupa wrote in:
>> 1107637252.275046.189740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
>>
>>> Daryl Krupa wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> Yes, the maximum tree age in Kalm's time seems to
>>>> have been about 350 years. What I see is that Kalm
>>>> notes that most trees are less than 200 years old,
>>>> and that few trees are more than 300 years old,
>>>> when he is in or near New Jersey.
>>>> (I do not have the exact page marked; I will try to
>>>> find it again.)
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> It's from December 11, 1748.
>>> That entry begins with:
>>>
>>> "This morning I made a little excursion to
>>> Penn's Neck, and across the Delaware to
>>> Wilmington."
>>>
>>> This is part of the second paragraph, headed
>>> "Trees":
>>> "The woods of these parts consist of all sorts
>>> of trees, but chiefly of oak and hickory.
>>> They have certainly never been cut down, and
>>> have always grown without hindrance.
>>> It might therefore be expected that there are
>>> trees of an uncommonly great age to be found
>>> in them.
>>> But it happens otherwise, and there are very
>>> few trees three hundred years old.
>>> Most of them are only two hundred years and
>>> this has convinced me that trees have the same
>>> quality as animals, and die after they have
>>> arrived at a certain age.
>>> We find great forests here, but when the trees
>>> in them have stood a hundred and fifty or a
>>> hundred and eighty years,they are either rotting
>>> within, or losing their crown."
>>>
>>> -
>>> Daryl Krupa
>>
>> "
>> It has happened when I have been out with the natives,
>> (Wilden, for so we name those who are not born of Christian
>> parents,) that we have come to a piece of young woodland.
>> When I have told them, in conversation, that they would do
>> well to clear off such land, because it would bear good corn,
>> that they said, "it is but twenty years since we planted corn
>> there, and now it is woods again."
>> I asked them severally if it were true, when they all answered
>> in the affirmative.
>> This relation was also corroborated by others.
>> "
>> Adriaen van der Donck(1640) Description of the New Netherlands.
>> p.149
>
> Peter Alaca:
> Interesting ... confirmation of Kalm's tree-ages.

Possibly.
Overgrown arable land. An indication for the agricultural system? Diffucult
to say. 

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- Peter Alaca -