Re: genes and language (Homer, Richard Dawkins)

From: Franz Gnaedinger (frgn_at_bluemail.ch)
Date: 02/17/05 

Date: 16 Feb 2005 23:20:44 -0800

I have not been convicted of anything, and I am not
"judicially regarded as a slanderer" - if the latter
were the case, my contrahent and his lawyer would
lovingly go to court and start a regular lawsuit
against me. But they did not go and will not go
to court, because the lawyer knows very well that
A) his client Marie Jean Faucounau and grapheus
are one and the same (legal) person; B) his client
started every diffamation and ignored my warnings
before I gave back; C) I have ample evidence for all
I say; D) based on my evidence, a judge in court would
declare the obvious identity of Marie Jean Faucounau
and gapheus; E) his client would be exposed for the
"pathological liar" he accuses me of being; F) his
client would go raving mad, and would not pay him,
the lawyer, who spoke to me (FG) of "a silly case"
no lawyer is dreaming of, but, he confessed, he can't
deny his financial interest, so he is in it for the
money, and only as long as the income of the money
is more or less guaranteed.

The lawyer tried a strategy of intimidation on me:
let us shellshock him (me, FG) with a tremendous fine,
at least 8,485 Swiss francs if he is willing to pay,
or 20,000 francs if he is not willing. Then we go
before the judge of the peace. I propose a comparison
that will cost him 2,000 francs only. He will gladly
pay that comparatively small fine, and by signing
my paper, he will declare himself guilty ... I did
not sign that paper. Whereupon the 2,000 francs were
reduced to nothing. I still did not sign that paper.
So the judge of the peace typed on a form that the
lawyer accuses me of this and that, whereas I refuse
his accusation. I signed her and only her paper:
the Weisung that allows the lawyer to go to court.
But he won't do it. He just took the money and run,
so to speak, leaving his client to what this one,
in an act of involuntary self-diagnosis, called
"pananoiac delirium" (sic).

His inability of correctly reading belongs to his
frame of mind. When the judge of the peace gave
a brief summary of the accusation, adding that
I refuse it, he, Marie Jean Faucounau grapheus,
sells that summary of the lawyer's accusation
as her, the judge's, conviction of me. So he is
either an infernal liar, or a clinical case.

Probably the latter. While still hoping to sue me
he wrote under the pseudonym of circle, which was
the name Deja gave me: "Franz Gnaedinger aka Jean
Faucounau" - prosecuting me and identifying himself
with me at the very same time. What began as a case
of Marie Jean Faucounau grapheus vs. me, turns into
the case Marie Jean Faucounau grapheus versus Marie
Jean Faucounau grapheus.
-
Got sill more to say, Franz Gnaedinger, www.seshat.ch

> Jacques Guy: so you got those photocopies. I don't
> try to convince people, but I give some people a chance
> to see a relevant work they might otherwise miss,in this
> case the wonderful translation of the Phaistos Disk given
> by Derk Ohlenroth of Tuebingen university. It's up to you
> what you make of it.
>
> Philip Deitiker: must I remember you again of your silly
> (if not plain stupid) explanation of how to measure out
> the base of the Great Pyramid to the amazing accuracy
> according to Rainer Stadelmann? and your piss bucket reply
> here in this thread, main title: Did the Trojan war ...
> (still a coherent thread in Google beta) ? Kooks thrive
> not only outside academe, there are plenty of kooky ideas
> and opinions inside academe, especially when it comes to
> early civilizations outside Europe.
>
> Edus in general: nobody could answer my question from
> past August: what is language? I provided my answer in
> the middle of October, as announced. Nobody could point
> out a fault in my definition. Either you discuss with me,
> or you keep away from me. None of you has won a debate
> with me, so far, which is why you never try. It's so
> much easier to drop a "kook" from above. Know that there
> are plenty of kooks in academe too, not only outside
> academe (as I said above). Back in 1974 I interpreted
> Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa as an Allegory of Seeing
> and explained her smile with the fovea and retina.
> Friends of mine could easily see what I meant and were
> very pleased. Academe missed all I saw: Your work is
> very interesting; however, there would nobody be
> interested in your work, since, according to the whole
> redaction, each and everything had been said about
> the Mona Lisa ... No joke. That was a reaction I got
> for my work. In October 2000 I published a brief English
> version of my interpretation in sci.archaeology, and
> then, in 2001, Dr. Margaret Livingstone, a neurobiologist
> of Harvard, published the very same explanation. So my
> explanation from 1974 had been confirmed 27 years later.
> I am sure that my definition of language - language is
> basically the means of getting help and understanding from
> those we depend upon in order to satisfy our needs and
> fulfill our wishes; and every means that serves this
> purpose may be called language - will stay in the
> textbooks, even schoolbooks. And so will my inter-
> pretations of beautiful Helen of the white arms,
> xanthos Menelaos, lovely Hermione who resembled golden
> Aphrodite, a slave woman and mistress of Menelaos,
> and their son late come strong Megapenthes, as tin,
> copper, bronze, aurichalcit and brass respectively,
> stay in every book on ancient Greece and Homer
> thirty years from now.
>
> Scientific comments are welcome, but please keep away
> from this thread when you are just dropping a prioris,
> ex cathedras, eo ipsos and anyways.
> -
> Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch
>
>
> > I have absolutely enough, absolutely enough!
> > The "pathological liar" and "compusive slanderer"
> > is Marie Jean Faucounau alias grapheus alias fr.soc.
> > histoire.antique alias circle alias Alan_Crozier
> > (not identical with Alan Crozier). I do not allow
> > to be placed on the same level with him. He lost his
> > case, the intimidating strategy used by his lawyer
> > did not work, I have not and in no way been convicted,
> > a Weisung simply says that the lawyer can go to court,
> > either till the end of February, or perhaps till the
> > end of March, if he believes he has a case, but he
> > does not do that, I am certain. Marie Jean Faucounau
> > lost his case and has now to pay a lot of money to
> > his expensive lawyer. This upsets him, and he shows
> > who he really is. That's is my very very last warning.
> > I wish everybody to keep away from this thread, I use
> > it for working, for developing my framework of a general
> > theory of language (from genes to humans to aliens,
> > if you need a juicy title), and not for being stalked
> > and molested and harassed and slandered. My very last
> > warning. Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch
> >
> >
> > > Genetic engineering and communication in the web of life
> > > - before I can come to this topic of my today's message
> > > I have to say another word about the insane replies
> > > full of lies I am getting these days.
> > >
> > > For the record: I do not live on welfare, and never
> > > lived on welfare; I do not life from charity, and
> > > never lived from charity. I live modestly, and lived
> > > very modestly. I can live in such a way since, I find
> > > ample satisfaction in the various scientific areas I
> > > am working in. In my spare time I am volunteering for
> > > a relief organisation, and I spent a considerable sum
> > > of money on a client of mine. I also supported other
> > > people, and enabled a young woman who had been tricked
> > > out of her studies to go on; anonymously, with quite
> > > a lot of money. While living most modestly myself.
> > >
> > > Marie Jean Faucounau alias grapheus lost his case.
> > > There was no lawsuit. He could not drag me in court.
> > > I was neither convicted of anything, nor had I to pay
> > > a single cent. All Marie Jean Faucounau grapheus got
> > > (I may infer) was a big fat bill from his expensive
> > > lawyer, and now, he must feel, that money buys him
> > > a right to spread big fat lies about me.
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Genes are basic to life, and, as I believe, alive
> > > themselves, whether occuring in organisms, cells,
> > > bacteria, or even viruses. Now let me ponder some
> > > consequences of such a view.
> > >
> > > If a gene could be synthesized in a laboratory, and
> > > if it is alive, one would have created artificial life.
> > > Is that so? I would say no. A basic insight of biology
> > > claims that life comes from life. This basic principle
> > > would also hold if genes were synthesized in a lab,
> > > either by people, or by machines designed by people,
> > > or by machines designed by machines designed by human
> > > beings.
> > >
> > > Genetic engineering would then just be an extension
> > > of the biological principle that life comes from life,
> > > and genes are the same whether synthesized in a living
> > > organism or in a laboratory, even by clever machines
> > > designed by humans. Eric J. Chaisson, in his book
> > > Cosmic Evolution, believes that civilization is heading
> > > for genetic engineering (following an intrinsic trend
> > > of all evolution toward an ever denser sustainable
> > > energy flux).
> > >
> > > So we must not care about warning voices concerning
> > > genetic engineering? I don't say that, not at all.
> > > We have enough reasons to proceed carefully.
> > >
> > > Genes are obliged to cooperate, and so they may well
> > > have sort of a language, since language occurs where
> > > living beings or entities are depending on each other.
> > > RNA or DNA might even be a materialized language among
> > > genes (according to an article in Science, if memory
> > > serves). Now consider a new gene, whether synthesized
> > > in a virus or in a lab, exposed in living organisms:
> > > here, they will undergo a process of communication
> > > that will be crucial for the new gene: will it be
> > > accepted or rejected? and if accepted, where shall
> > > it be incorporated? Such an evaluation process by
> > > means of communication among genes may take a long
> > > time and provide answers that perhaps come from
> > > completely unexpected places. Life is a global web,
> > > and if we act against it, we risk getting an answer
> > > we may not like at all.
> > >
> > > So genetic engineering, I find, should go along with
> > > a global communication on all levels. We can't give all
> > > answers ourselves and beforehand; we should listen to
> > > the answers given to us by the web of life.
> > > -
> > > Regards Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch

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