Re: Evidence for a Great Flood?

From: Philip Deitiker (Nopdeitik_at_att.net.Spam)
Date: 02/25/05 

Date: 25 Feb 2005 23:51:40 GMT

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> Many events in the Bible are believed or known to be
historical. Same
> thing with the Quran, Homer's literature, etc., etc.
>
> In almost every region, mythological literature is used to
decipher
> history.

Myth is the embellishment of history for the sake of good
story telling and religious endoctrination. To the degree that
myths are true are mostly unknown. The closer a potentially
historic event is to the time the story is penned and copied
with fidelity, the more likely it represents truth.

> Who says nobody has every witnessed a current event being
transformed
> into a myth? What about the companions of the Prophet
Muhammad, the
> cargo cults, or any modern or historical cult figure, to
give a few
> examples.

Urban myths are a good example. The CIA created aids to kill
off the africans in the world. But the reality of the story is
the europeans(and to some credit orientals) did create guns
which then fell into the hands of africans. Which then allowed
them to hunt chimpanzees, which the opened the opportunity for
the transfer of HIV between chimpanzees in humans.
  AIDS created itself with the help of monkeys
  It wasn't the CIA, it was European Colonialist who
    facilitatyed the transfer
  And the africans appear to be doing a relatively good job of
    killing themselves, with or without AIDS. Although AIDS
  has acted to transform the political landscape, as with
  chimps africans are slowly and selectively generating a
  resistance to AIDS lethality.

Now some would argue that the myth has nothing to do with the
facts. One aspect of the myth is correct 1) Africans are
disproportionately dying, 2)AIDS did enter the human
population in africa, 3) Intelligence about AIDS is largely
derived from the appearance and study of the disease in the
U.S.. However it was first identified and studied in white
males.

  And from asia we learn the lesson of SARS, that completely
uneducated humans are pretty damn good at discovering new
diseases and transferring willing to other recipients. So it
doesn't really require any intelligence to get a virus to jump
the species barrier, just simple carelessness about the risk.
 
> Look at the founder of the Bahai faith, who is generally
accepted as an
> historical figure. All the claimed miraculous events of his
life have
> become part of myth.

What is the bahai faith and who is its founder.
 
> Another example is the great typhoon that destroyed the
Mongol fleet
> off Japan and was attributed to the Kami, the divine forces
of nature.
 
> As for a plausible mechanism, one doesn't even have to have
much of an
> imagination to figure out how this could happen.

Not diving into the spirituality of the event, however, spent
a sufficient amount of time in Japan, many Japanese beleive
that it was their warriors drafted in every town that kept
Khan's fleet from managing to effectively get a beach head
long enough for many ships to land. In fact by the time a
beach head had been secured the fleet was so spread out over
the massive coastline of Japan that when support ships
arrived, the beachheads had been lost. Now if you are a huge
fleet and you are sitting off the coast in typhoon season
you are at risk.
  This particular example I think mirrors other Japanese
stories about samari in towns willing to join the cause when
needed to push out the tyrannt or the foriegn menace. Some of
this was discussed in a couple of museums I visited. Therefore
the devinity really lies in the persistent and unstopping
defense and the wholey unified nature of Japan when push comes
to shove. On the flipside, khan empire, had, like other
empires expanded to their extremes, it was over extended, and
all it needed was one major misjudgement plus events turning
the wrong way, a retraction was inevitable.

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