Re: Europe will soon be 100% Muslim
From: Comm (tjsrno_at_spampost.com)
Date: 03/22/05
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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:32:24 GMT
"mikelist" <mutterer@notime> wrote in message
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> Comm wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, you focus far too much on religion and the use of religion to
>> incite fanatacism. Lots of things can make people fanatics. Not just
>> religion.
>
> Fanatics, yes. Suicidal fanatics is a bit more of a stretch. You are the
> one who attributed it to a religion, ie islam,
Nope. Japanese were also suicidal (Kami Kazi I mentioned).
and I don't think a
> suitable alternate motive for suicide exists outside of anticipation of an
> afterlife, except to escape constant pain or depression, and those people
> are unlikely to bring politics or warfare into their private hell.I may be
> wrong though, how about your take on suicidal secular fanatics? Secular
> and religious are mutually exclusive terms, as I would have thought you
> recognized.
No, a person can be a fanatic for "democracy" or for "the state" or for
"their race" or whatever. Fanatacism can take many non-religious forms.
Obviously you don't know how soldiers fought during the US Civil War. Well,
they'd stand out in the open, guns ready. Right out in the open. The other
side would charge in head first in the open - and they'd shoot each other to
pieces. When they got close enough, they'd resort to using bayonettes and
other hand to hand weapons. That was was fought over the issue of slave
labor versus free wage labor. Both sides were fanatic. Hell, they shot the
freaking president after it was over, too.
Here is a clue: when people no longer have anything to lose, or anything
much to lose - they don't give a *** if they die fighting, so long as they
slaughter those that screwed them over.
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