Re: The Vinland Map's Ink
- From: Seppo Renfors <Renfors@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:54:29 GMT
Ken Towe wrote:
>
> This discussion of the ink has been rapidly diluted by some irrational
> comments and name-calling. This, of course, is not helpful to a
> resolution of the questions raised.
This is entirely true, but then, you should have thought of that in
the first instance and not resorted to ad hominem and ill-tempered
comments in the first place as your opening remarks here. In fact that
petty criminal stalker has been citing you in its support! A "worthy"
achievement you have managed!
> I would like those who regard the
> VM as an authentic medieval document to answer my question (raised
> earlier)...If the map is really medieval, what is a PLAUSIBLE
> explanation for the appearance AND composition of the inks that is
> consistent with the age of the parchment? Can Mr. Stevens, Mr. Renfors
> or Ms. Johansson answer this question without digressing onto other
> topics or making further ad hominem comments? This should be fairly
> simple if there is such an explanation? Thank you.
It is indeed - and it has been stated numerous times already. It is
best expressed in a question form. What is so out of the ordinary of
this map's ink in comparison to other medieval documents inks?
You see, this is the point - there isn't anything! You don't have the
ability to say: "99% of medieval documents don't contain anatase" (or
anything like it). What is known is that other medieval documents DO
contain TiO2 (ref Olin) only the form is unknown IIRC. Inks on "other
documents" haven't been investigated so excruciatingly pain-stakingly
by people who's first "explanation" is a conspiracy theory without a
motive. Even so, many component parts of the ink are untested and
unknown to this day.
After all Ken, you yourself have had to finally admit anatase exists
in nature of the kind found on the map - therefor the claim
"manufactured" no longer holds water.
Other reasons why the "fake" claim doesn't hold water is that gap in
the chain of events - a claimed "manufactured anatase" without
establishing how it came to be in the ink in the first place (or ANY
ink of the 1920's) rather than from natural sources (or 15th century
manufacture of ink). That gap isn't merely a lack of information, but
a gap in credibility as well. Further more the whole scenario of
"fake" rests on an implausible and an impossible to achieve method of
"double inking" - so perfect it cannot be detected with the very best
in microscopy! That while the most plausible and reasonable
explanation is that the ink was poorly made and separated, resulting
in the lamp black not being well bonded to the parchment and has
mostly fallen off.
There is no point nor purpose at all to do a "double inking" even IF
it was a "fake" - nor is there a NEED for any "manufactured anatase" -
in fact it would be to the detriment of a forgery!
That is to say, there is nothing at all in existence that actually
proves "it is a fake" as claimed. Therefore there is nothing to answer
regarding "plausible" either. The onus of proof still rests with the
nay-sayers to establish their claim.
--
SIR - Philosopher unauthorised
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