Re: The Vinland Map's Ink

"I.E_Johansson" <IEJohansson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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> > I.E_Johansson wrote: kCc5e.134221$dP1.471547@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
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> > > Ken,
> > > have you or haven't you access to the Jesuit map 'Mappa 56'? And have
> > > you or haven't you access to normal procedure for carbon ink which
> > > existed from Ancient Age up to Mediveal Age; same question for if you
> > > have or if you haven't full knowledge of the process in Medieval
> > > Age(and before) for the sand product which was used to dry ink. If
> > > you have those knowledge, how can you say that valid arguments are
> > > misinformed? What's presented to be in the ink is exactly what would
> > > be expected for a map drawn in 1430's. If you have analysed other
> > > maps of the time and from that arrived to your conclusion, please
> > > state you case. Up to now you haven't.
> >
> > Inger,
> > Before blaming Ken Towe for anything:
> > Tell us what is expected from a 1430's map and why?
>
> In this case exactly what VM show. Including the Tartar connection btw.
>
> > Tell us where your famous 'Mappa 56' is to be seen.
>
> This is one thing I can't understand Alaca, anyone who has a bit more than
> ordinary knowledge about old maps and especially the maps where 'Vinland'
is
> written on would have had problem not to learn this. It's not a special
nor
> a rare knowledge. Mappa 56 is a Jesuit map found in a church archieve in
> Hungary, been there since it was drawn in 1599 from same origin as the
> 1430's map was.


Alaca asked you where the map is. Your answer was wholly inadequate (Hungary
has a lot of churches) for anyone who wants to trace it. You say it has been
there since 1599. I have heard that it was bought for a large sum by some
unfortunate person in the USA and has now vanished. None of the map experts
on the maphist list know where it is. There are also rumours of a court case
in Hungary. Everything about this map seems fishy. Do you know where it is,
Inger?

Alan

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Alan Crozier
Lund
Sweden


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