Re: The Vinland Map's Ink

Eric Stevens wrote in message ...
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>On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:10:00 GMT, "David B" <tronospamchos@xxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>>>
>>The Vinland Map is, in the present state of
>>investigation, unique in a number of ways which can easily be explained
as
>>the products of 20th century forgery.
[snip]
>
>I'm not sure that any feature could only be the product of a 20th
>century forgery.

Probably so, but that's not what I was saying.

>An equally tenable argument is that it is a 15th
>century product and has suffered less than sympathetic handling by
>someone who recently obtained it dishonestly and since has tried to
>flossy it up for resale.

Not so. Here are a few VM features unrelated to ink chemistry that are very
difficult to explain in a 15th century context, very easy in a 20th century
context:

+The VM contains a papal date for the visit of Bishop Eirik Gnupsson to
Vinland which is some 3 years different from any other source.
+The VM contains a title for the same Bishop which is found in no other
medieval source, but does occur as a description of his status in a
late-19th century academic work.
+The VM contains a Latinized version of the name Eiriksson in a style which
was almost (I'll admit not quite) unknown before 1600
+The VM gives what appears to be a more accurate depiction of the Japanese
islands of Honshu and Hokkaido than any other map, western or eastern,
before the 17th century
+The VM depicts Greenland as an island, in roughly the shape that was
established by surveyors at the start of the 20th century
+The VM depicts Vinland at the same incorrect longitude as the Portuguese
discoveries in North America were placed on maps made shortly after the
post-Columban Treaty of Tordesillas- just on the Portuguese side of the
treaty dividing line; Greenland is also in almost the same position, but
depicted very differently
+For the "old world", the land outlines and most of the place names on the
VM can be shown to be derived from the circular world map of 1436 in Andrea
Bianco's world atlas, but the VM has been copied in sections at different
scales, distorted in a way consistent with use of a projected photograph
+As a result of this distortion, the Dardanelles, one of the best-known
geographical features on portolan-based medieval mapping, is absent from
the VM
+Most of the rivers shown on the VM do not match the rivers shown on the
Bianco map, to the extent that major rivers like the Volga are omitted in
favour of smaller ones nearby
+The VM depicts the Canary Islands, correctly shown on the Bianco map and
others of the period as a chain reaching almost to the African coast, as
two shorter rows, further from the coast, which would be more accurate as a
depiction of the Cape Verde Islands, unknown to European mariners in the
1440s
+The VM's use of material from the "Tartar Relation" is inconsistent, as if
the map was not drawn to illustrate the T.R., but merely used it as a
source for names and phrases. In particular, virtually all names on the map
are taken from the first few pages of the T.R.
+The V.M., most unusually, is designed around the fold in the parchment on
which it is drawn, despite being bound with a guard-strip so that it can be
opened out flat


Is that enough to be going on with?


David B.



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