Re: The Vinland Map's Ink


"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:04:14 -0400, "Steve Marcus"
> <smarcus_spamout_@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:9dlc519k73pegbvgfjee0jlvcen4g473ti@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:52:05 +0200, "Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Steve Marcus wrote: lRj5e.38$5J3.11@lakeread01,
>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Per Dr. Towe, Enterline has abandoned his own hypothesis,
>>>>> in favor of supporting Olin's current hypothesis.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>No, he is /willing/ to replace it.
>>>>
>>>>"" I stated in my previous message that I was willing to
>>>> replace this scenario with Jacque's carbon separation
>>>> hypothesis, which I will experiment with soon.
>>>> This would leave the scenario with only one "unexpected
>>>> event," the bleaching.""
>>>>
>>>>Quoted by Towe 01-04-05
>>>
>>> I can only repeat what I said on
>>> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:03:01 +1200 in
>>> Message-ID: <m9h8519orh89tu7hn578foaieksgppgi24@xxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> "Only a few days ago Enterline told me in a private email that he
>>> has merely modified his theory to allow for the possibility
>>> suggested by Jacquelin Olin that the overlying carbon came not
>>> from a re-tracing, but rather from carbon mixed with the original
>>> would-be iron gall ink to make it visible before oxidation.
>>> Apparently Jacquelin Olin believes a significant amount of such
>>> carbon would be squeezed out to the surface upon drying,
>>> Enterline's underlying hypothesis that anatase might have been
>>> transferred to the VM during a modern bleaching operation remains
>>> untouched."
>>>
>>> In other words, Enterline has not abandoned his hypothesis. He has
>>> merely modified it to take into account a different scenaroi re the
>>> deposition of the ink.
>>>
>>> Please note my use of the words "Only a few days ago". It is still
>>> less than a week since I corresponded with Enterline. I have
>>> paraphrased his email to me to describe his current opinion.
>>
>>In that case, Enterline has told you something different than Dr. Towe
>>claims that Enterline told him.
>
> That may be, but I can't help that at all.
>>
>>That alone should tell you something about Enterline (I think that Dr.
>>Towe
>>is several levels above lying re what Enterline told him).
>
> Hmm. You of all people should be more careful. I suggest you find out
> something about James Enterline before you leap to conclusions.

Hmmm... From "Booknews", as quoted on the Barnes & Noble site with respect
to the book "Erikson Esquimos, and Columbus": A mathematician and computer
consultant who explores the history of cartography, Enterline treats the
medieval maps and documents relating to the western hemisphere as artifacts,
and subjects them to the inductive methods of archaeology. He sees his work
as part of the new field of cognitive archaeology. Annotation c. Book News,
Inc., Portland, OR (booknews.com)

I can't seem to find too much more beyond that with respect to academic
qualifications for James Enterline. Dr. Towe is a mineralogist.

James Enterline is interested in selling books. Perhaps Dr. Towe is also,
but he also has a reputation and a creditability in his profession (actually
two scientific fields) that he puts on the line when he writes something and
sends it out into the public.

But my point is simpler than that, really. Dr. Towe has no reason to
misrepresent what he was told by Enterline, and I would think that
sufficient legal reason exists to avoid doing so. On the other hand, if you
ask someone the wrong questions in a private correspondence, you will often
get back precisely the answer that your correspondent believes that you want
to hear.
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> Eric Stevens
>

Steve
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