Re: The Nature of Anatase...



On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:58:36 +0100, Doug Weller
<dweller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:30:25 +1200, in sci.archaeology, Eric Stevens
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:16:25 +0100, Doug Weller
>><dweller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:27:38 +1200, in sci.archaeology, Eric Stevens
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ken did not claim that calcining could only come into existence by
>>>>calcining. He said that anatase which has been subject to calcining is
>>>>distinguishable from anatase which has not been calcined. Please stop
>>>>festooning these discussions with straw men.
>>>
>>>ROTFL. Inger has accused me of being a strawman for saying that a ship
>>>with a square sail can't point as close to the wind as one with a lateen
>>>rig (of course, she claims I'm wrong).
>>>
>>
>>You are not, but probaly by not as much as most people would believe.
>
>I'm aware that a lot of people underestimate what a square rig can do, but
>Inger just said she'd phoned a friend and that friend (one of her experts)
>had laughed at me for saying that a lateen rig could point closer to the
>wind than a square rig.
>

Modern replicas of viking ships can indeed sail to windward. I forget
exactly how well but they definitely can do it. That the originals
were sailed in this fashion is indicated by the fittings on the hull
to enable them to haul the sail into an almost fore and aft position.
They had no reason to do this unless they were sailing into the wind.




Eric Stevens

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