Re: The Vinland Map's Ink

As far as I know, there has never been reported an ink that is anything
at all like that on the Vinland Map, regardless of brews or age.

It would be easier to say that last, if one knew what the ink on the
VM [is?].

I don't understand your intransigence on this aspect, Mr. Stevens. The
British Museum (in 1967) didn't know anything about the ink on the
Map...certainly not that it contained modern anatase...and yet they did
not recognize it as belonging to any of the many inks with which they
were familiar. They saw it as very unusual. Remember, they had one of
the world's largest collections of medieval documents with which to
compare. Others, since then, have not come up with something comparable
either. If we (or they) were to know everything possible that one could
know about the ink, do you think that this would have changed their
assessment of it? You bet! If they knew then what we know now it would
have surely confirmed their assessment, in spades. You must agree that
it is a very strange mixture...one layer of yellow-brown material
overlain by a black carbon-based material that flakes off. None of the
expected iron-gall ink anywhere.

I'm puzzled. Apart from playing the Devil's Advocate, why do you insist
on knowing absolutely everything about the ink before drawing a
conclusion...even a tentative one? Yes, I know, you (or certainly one
of the others) will argue that not every ink of every document ever
written has been studied, nor have we analyzed the VM ink to its
rock-bottom absolute values, but for those people who make their living
studying ancient inks and documents they have not found one yet that is
even remotely comparable. The odds, therefore, are not good in your
favor. I admire your skepticism, but at some point you will have to
make a choice based on the available facts (and not those comical
'facts' spewed out by the others) and on logic (and not the spurious
'logic' asserted by others). YOU, at least, know what the FACTS are;
THEY, sadly, don't really have a clue. Given all of the problems with
this map and given all of the problems with the alternatives that have
been presented, it is increasingly hard to justify the VM as an
authentic document. Witness here, for example, the complete inability
of a few of the others to answer directly even the simplest of
questions about their positions on the ink. If there were legitimate
arguments in support of their positions they would gladly respond. So
far...ZIP! Nothing but incoherent and rambling babble. Their silence on
the answers to rather simple questions is deafening...but so is their
incessant carping and whining. Imagine that you are on a jury. No jury
ever knows everything. But the weight of the existing evidence, for or
against the defendant, has to be considered and a conclusion drawn from
it. With regard to the VM you need to draw one, or explain why you
remain unable to do so. The hackneyed argument(?) that we don't know
everything about everything is really weak.

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