Re: More anatase myth killing. Re: More anatase
- From: "Alaca" <P.Alaca@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:09:11 +0200
bogart.lloy@xxxxxxxxx wrote: 1114727000.277323.12730@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Ken Towe wrote: [snip]
(regarding anatase in kaolin clay:)
That leaves us with the quantitatively trivial anatase found in clays and soils, most notably kaolins. The problem here, of course, is that the anatase seen on the map does not have any clay minerals associated with it nor even the chemicals needed (Al, Si) in the amounts necessary. I have requested several times that those who advocate a natural source offer an explanation for how their natural anatase could be so com pletely separated from the bulk of the material with which it is found and yet appear as seen on the Map. So far, they have not done so. Until they do so most people will see immediately that their "explanation"
(= it's found in nature!) is laughable. Based on past performance, we need not expect them to provide anything but more fog and more heat, but no light.
Dear Ken;
You have stated the argument clearly and concisely, and most people would be convinced by now, of the truth that anatase of the s ize (and near-uniformity of size) that is found in the ink of the VM is not to be found in nature. (Of course, there are others who wouldn't hesitate to argue with the Almighty, if the fiery finger wrote, on the wall, something that didn't fit their mind set.)
You also maintain that there is no historically documented known way to separate out, from somewhat larger and smaller anatase particles, or from the other material matrices in which they might be found (as in kaolin clays), the nearly uniform tiny particles of the required size, as found in the VM. It is this last which, I believe, must be carefully reconsidered.
While I hate to prolong what is indefensible, I've recently been informed by a well known and renowned (not to mention famous) historian of veterinary medicine, of a little-known method that may have accomplished just (precisely) such a separation. (I regret I'm not at liberty to disclose her name; she's preparing an article, and doesn't want anyone stealing her material.)
She has this manuscript with an ancient remedy for treating bovine digestive disorders. It was used with the semi-domesticated but lately- extinct Aurochs Borealis or Scandinavian forest bull.
It describes how 2 or so pounds of partially liquefied kaolin was force-fed to these beasts, as a sort of purgative, and for the most part, it would pass in the usual way.
Now, the interesting part, for us, is a section describing in detail how a type of medication (for humans) was prepared from bits of the intestines of these same animals which had been so treated.
This method, dated to at least the late 13th century, involves burning dried sections of the intestine, and then purifying the smoke thusly produced. The smoke is driven by a bellows through a container of something like aquavit, in which most of the organic materials and impurities dissolved, or settled out. The alcohol was burned off, and a portion of what remained was then slung round in an ink pot (!) at the end of a rope, by a succession of religious acolytes. They continued slinging it (and chanting) for some length of time, in what I take to be a very early version of a centrifuge.
My theory is, as the kaolin passed through the intestine, the very smallest particles, which would include those of anatase, would, without a doubt, adhere to, or actually lodge within, the tiny channels and pores of the intestinal walls.
Charring the partially cleaned intestines and slinging the reduced, blown smoke residue, as described above, would accomplish the transfer of only the very tiniest anatase particles to the ink pot where it might remain, along with some carbon and very little else).
After that, the stuff might easily, but accidently, have been mistaken for ink, for one stunning project, and THAT's why only a single document appears to exist, on which this 'ink' was utilized.
Whew! I hope you followed all that, and I'm already confident of your agreement that this is just (precisely) what happened. If you don't, you're just (merely) wrong!
Certain other folks around here are well known for blowing smoke and for slinging bull***, so there's no reason to doubt that this explanation will handily serve their needs.
Best Regards, and Good Night on that.
Lloyd *****
Loyd, Do you know what they did with the used ink pots? Is it possible that one came in the possession of a certain scribe? I am asking this because, as you know, the only weak point in Ingers proof of anatase contamination via the quill in an empty pot is the need for ancient and exotic pottery.
-- P.A.
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