Re: The Vinland Map's Ink


bogart.l...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Ken Towe *[ACTUALLY DAVID] wrote:
> > Few things are truly certain, but in the absence of any
> > hypotheses for a medieval origin of the Vinland Map ink
> > which do not require a multiplicity of remarkable
> > circumstances,
>
> [snip]
> >
> > Mr. Stevens wrote...
> >
> >> I take no issue with this. [??? >>>>] Even including
> >> item (1) in your list, you have told us nothing about
> >> the actual ink. You have instead told us about the
> >> anatase present in the ink. This no more tells us
> >> anything useful about the ink than would an account
> >> of mud found in the wheel arches tell you anything
> >> useful about my car.
>
>
> Ken Towe wrote...
> > Using this logic(?) wouldn't one have to argue similarly
> > that in item (1) [th e ink used to draw the Vinland Map is
> > not an iron gall ink] the presence (or absence) of iron tells
> > us nothing useful about the actual ink?
>
> Appaarently, Eric remains convinced that the anatase is an
> after-the-fact addition to the VM: if, l ike the mud on his car,
> the anatase were to be magically removed, it would not alter
> the integrity of what remained -- it would still be "the ink".
>
> Otherwise, if the anatase is a component of the "ink", then,
> and by extension, it follows that i f we knew *everything*
> that's *in* the VM ink, that'd still not tell us anything
> useful about the ink.
>
> Or, we might wonder how many remaining components
> might be removed before what remains is classified as
> something other than "the ink"?
>
> **********
>
> Following up on an earlier posting, I refer those still fascinated
> by the anatase debacle (all none of you, I suspect) to co nsider:
>
> http://www.tms.org/Meetings/Annual-97/Program/AM97-TuesdayPM.html
>
> ...in which is summarize d a method for generating very small
> and uniformTi02 particles from a heated source. For those
> impaired enough to be habitually credulous, it will be only a
> short hop to the realization that the BBISB&ARS <tm> method
> (Bovine Burned Intestine, Smoke Blowing & Acolyte Residue
> Slinging method) should not be ignored.
>
> Gotta go now, my tongue seems to be painfully lodged in
> my cheek.
>
>
> Lloyd
> *****
>
> .

Apologies for the mis-attribution, that *beginning* statement
wes David's, as *quoted* by Ken.


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Relevant Pages

  • Mr Towe libelling
    ... > Repeated requests have been made to those who cling to Vinland Map ... > The Renfors Facts? ... The Cahill PIXE analyses found anatase, not only in the ink ...
    (sci.archaeology)
  • Re: The Vinland Map Find Or Fraud?
    ... that has NO RELEVANCE to anything at all being discussed. ... "Anatase particles having all of these properties can only have been ... relevance to the Vinland Map inks." ... content of nanogram flakes of the yellow ink itself, ...
    (sci.archaeology)
  • Re: The Vinland Map Find Or Fraud?
    ... > idea as deriving anatase for the VM ink from clays. ... > then appear in an ink on the Vinland Map. ... > anatase without kaolinite is like finding a needle or two in a haystack ...
    (sci.archaeology)
  • Re: The Vinland Maps Ink
    ... the ferrous iron begins to oxidize to ferric iron and hematite ... talks about a "leaching process" - quite the opposite from calcining. ... In modern practice, when anatase is ... the association of anatase with a medieval ink ...
    (sci.archaeology)
  • Hines-Renfors-Johansson-McCulloch team of scientific experts explain Vinland Map ink
    ... Repeated requests have been made to those who cling to Vinland Map ... The Renfors Facts? ... The Cahill PIXE analyses found anatase, not only in the ink ...
    (sci.archaeology)