Re: Why only crap in this NG? (was Wolter claims ...)

Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> says in
news:r0vf915im3adgtpjdhdtee2o1oq7pn2fs9@xxxxxxx:

> On Sat, 28 May 2005 03:08:58 GMT, Philip Deitiker
> <Donevenask@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Thomas Zahr <ThomasZahr0505@xxxxxxxxxxx> says in
>>news:Xns96641CE19757ThomasZahrfreenetde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>.de:
>>
>>> IEJ posted:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>> Secondly:
>>>> In what way would it affect YOU if you had to admit that
>>>> the Swedes and the Norwegians not only were active during
>>>> the Migration Age up to end of Viking Age in Europe but
>>>> also had more impact on the North American History then
>>>> what the later arriving Brits, French and Spainards
>>>> officially given them credit for?
>>
>>Everyone, take very careful note of what Inger is saying, and
>>keep this in mind with what I said about cryptoracism and
>>ethnocentrism. We were looking for a motivation and we seem to
>>have found it.
>
> I think it's neither cryptoracism nor nor ethhnocentrism. First,
> Swedes and Norwegians are substantially Inger's own people and
> one should not be surprised that she should be interested in
> their history. Second there is unambiguous evidence that they
> were in NA at relevant times and the only point at issue is how
> much influence, if any, they had. There are hints, mere hints,
> that they were present in times and places which are not
> generally recognised. There is no reason why Inger should not
> want to follow up these things.
>>
>>"
>> In what way would it affect YOU if you had to admit that
>>the Swedes and the Norwegians not only were active during
>>the Migration Age up to end of Viking Age in Europe but
>>also had more impact on the North American History then
>>what the later arriving Brits, French and Spainards
>>officially given them credit for?
>>"
>>
>>#1. Why do the british, french and spanish have any official
>>role in giving credit, in what unreal universe would we need to
>>rely on any of these to determine in america what happened in
>>america? Americans are doing american studies, we can, of
>>ourselves make the appropriate determinations, we do not need
>>officially a stamp from any country, and especially not from
>>Sweden.
>>
>>#2. What is to be gained or lost by giving credit to sweden for
>>what Norway, Greenland, England, Gotland, Scotland other nations
>>did 700 years ago. History is not about giving credit, its about
>>assigning facts. Why is it that a person from Sweden would stand
>>here and ask why it would affect to give credit to sweden from
>>something that did not happen?
>>
>>Motivation for one person to be in this newsgroup is to get
>>other people to pay homage to her country.
>
> You have frequently accussed Inger of racism and have linked
> other people into this kind of accusation when they do not
> immediately and violently reject the idea of a pre-Columbian
> norse presence in NA.

I do not reject the pre-columbian Norse presence. There is some sort
of a deviancy in a person who aspires to show that thier birth
country had the greatest impact, when there is no evidence of an
historical impact at all. What there is evidence of is a retraction.
See post to tom, she denies all retraction, claims the population was
1500 greater than the experts, and then claims they all emigrated to
the new world.

> I would be careful before you continue to
> level accusations of racism in this matter.

Certainly, and so what is the topic of archaeology that you bring to
the group.

> In particular, I
> would first remove the quite large chip from your not entirely
> German shoulder.

It is that nature of birth that makes a person fear others,
it is the nature of experience that allows that person to reflect.
It is the nature of life that curve balls are thrown
And it is the nature of me that I am curved also.

> I'm sorry to have to say this to you but you have been far too
> effective a cheer-leader in this matter and you must realise
> that accusations of bias on racial grounds cut both ways.

I see, so I am posting post after post of misstatements, flooding
this newsgroup with Norse bunk, right. You should know that most
of the germans that settled Texas did so because they were fleeing
the stupid nationalistic wars of europe, draft dodgers.

.

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