Re: Free Masons history


"Seppo Renfors" <Renfors@xxxxxxxxxx> skrev i meddelandet
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>
>
> IEJ wrote:
> >
> > Some here in sci.archaeology as well as in soc.history.medieval have
tried
> > to make believe that the Free Masons didn't exist until very late in
> > history.
> > The latest such false information was written by those who don't accept
the
> > Kensington Runestone.
> > Anyhow their assumptions are wrong. In 1235 the first Free Masons settle
in
> > Dubrovnik. That's well before 1362 but due to that also before the
Knights
> > Templars were forbidden.
> >
> > "1235
> > Det Stora och Lilla rådet näms för första gången. Frimurare slår sig ner
i
> > Dubrovnik."
> > http://www.dubrovnik-online.com/svenska/kronologi.php
>
> Nobody actually knows when masonry started. It is fair to say that it
> is dated to the 1300's for the sake of convenience and not fact.
> Freemasonry is older than that. The language and symbols used in their
> rituals come from around this era. The oldest document that makes
> reference to Masons (builders) is the Regius Poem, printed about 1390,
> which was a copy of an earlier work.
>
> Another accepted theory that is it evolved from Stonemasons Guilds.
> The stone mason's guilds are reputed to be the first ever Trade Union,
> set up to counter the organised Church - mainly the Catholic Church -
> to get a fair deal for building their huge cathedrals and churches. In
> fact the freemasons were banned from the Catholic Church right up to
> 1995. Talk about carrying a grudge - all the Popes were pissed off
> with the masons till then for screwing themselves a better pay deal
> some time back in the first millennia AD!

I can't confirm that it it evolved from Stonemasons Guilds. That I don't
know, but I do know that it in 1100's got a clear association to the Knights
Templars and the Grey Friars due to a Papal bulla.

Inger E

>
> Still builders who were masons and necessarily organised to a degree
> at least, date back much further and they have their own codes (laws),
> but so did Kings and rulers have Laws regarding masons - eg the oldest
> known codex of Ur-Nammu, king of Ur (ca. 2050 BC) or Codex Hammurabi
> created in about 1700 BC.
>
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