Re: Why only crap in this NG? (was Wolter claims ...)
- From: Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:47:23 +1200
On Tue, 31 May 2005 20:37:13 GMT, Philip Deitiker
<Donevenask@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> says in
>news:n1co9196j7glrpsb2j3j3b7o3u16urqdkv@xxxxxxx:
>
>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 06:36:07 GMT, Philip Deitiker
>> <Donevenask@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> says in
>>>news:t6tn9114h58a3p9hl3km54qdjbfvjdd05g@xxxxxxx:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2005 05:02:30 GMT, Philip Deitiker
>>>> <Donevenask@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> says in
>>>>>news:479n919l6rk83omobg7k1hkggjon3qm16d@xxxxxxx:
>>>>>
>>>>>> True, but the URL provides an answer to the apparent errors
>>>>>> by Columbus as to how far he traveled. He wasn't actually
>>>>>> wrong, he wasn't lying, he merely was using a different
>>>>>> length of league from those who later read his log.
>>>>>
>>>>>What you are saying is that he didn't know how far he was
>>>>>going but he knew how far he had gone when he got their. Of
>>>>>course once you make the trip back you have two balancing
>>>>>equations so current would cancel out.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that he came back on a different route from
>>>> that he used on the way out. he had no choice. Being square
>>>> rigged his ships had to largeley follow the winds and the
>>>> currents.
>>>
>>>Thats right, but he a mathematician could have taken his course
>>>versus speed measurements and calculated the strait distance
>>>traveled.
>>>
>>>> How
>>>> did he he ...
>>
>> ... know?
>>>
>>>haw haw
>>>
>>>> the correct routes? The portuguese had already found
>>>> them. The norse possibly had also found the northerly (for
>>>> Columbus) return route.
>>>
>>>Columbus did not return that far north, all he needs to be is
>>>above bermuda and he can start tracking east.
>>
>> That's right, that's the route some of the norse almost
>> certainly found.
>
>The fastest route back is along the northern atlantic, the hard part
>for the norse is getting west, not east. East is easy, particularly
>with a NWesterner at you back.
Getting west was accomplished at those high latitudes by riding the
westerly flowing parts of the low pressure gyres (turning
anticlockwise). There is evidence that the norse had found the much
more southerly route to get home via the Gulf Stream and Ireland.
>
>> Surely you are not trying to say the issue has not been confused
>> for several hundred years?
>
>What I am trying to say, if his true interest were to map what he had
>found, he would have had a more structured approach, if the issue is
>that the found land, did a breif 'look at all this booty' survey and
>return, he really didn't care how exactly far it was, just go west
>and take more supplies than i did (an a more northerly route since
>the doldrums are no fun) and you will find it.
> Explorers are out for glory and possibly a peak under the queens
>skirt. Not so much about writing a letter to a maritime science
>journal.
Eric Stevens
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